From: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] /proc/$pid/ leaks contents across setuid exec
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:38:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110210063842.GD1457@outflux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1r5bglfnu.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 07:41:41PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >
> >> Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 02:43:15PM +1100, James Morris wrote:
> >
> >> >> > I don't think /proc/$pid/* needs to stay open across execs, does it? Or at
> >> >> > least the non-0444 files should be handled separately.
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually, this seems like a more general kind of bug in proc rather than a
> >> >> leaked fd. Each child task should only see its own /proc/[pid] data.
> >> >
> >> > Right, that's precisely the problem. The unprivileged process can read
> >> > the setuid process's /proc files.
> >>
> >> If these are things that we actually care about we should sprinkle in a
> >> few more ptrace_may_access calls into implementations of the relevant
> >> proc files.
> >
> > This seems to be papering over a bug.
> >
> > It is plainly broken to return an access error to a task which is
> > legitimately accessing a file. The task should not receive the wrong
> > information from /proc/[pid]/* .
>
> Per task files are special because of exec. The permission needed
> change dynamically. The common solution to this problem (see ttys) is
> to revoke anyone who has file descriptors open. Proc does something a
> little different and simply gives you a permission error when you read
> or write if it would be a problem.
>
> We happen to call the test to see if you should have permission
> security_may_ptrace because ptrace lets you get the information anyway
> so we might as well allow the information from /proc.
>
> Given that security_may_ptrace is the existing model, and that we don't
> return wrong data, but a clear an unambiguous error I don't see problems
> with the approach.
>
> The practical question is, is the data sensitive enough that we want
> this protection.
This seems reasonable; they're mode 0400 for a reason. The auxv file
alone is a nearly total ASLR offset leak. The may_ptrace() worked well
for /proc/$pid/maps, and it started as 0444 historically and had a lot
of additional carefully managed requirements. Adding the same restriction
to all the already-mode-0400 files seems logical.
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Ubuntu Security Team
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-10 6:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-07 23:14 [SECURITY] /proc/$pid/ leaks contents across setuid exec Kees Cook
2011-02-08 0:44 ` James Morris
2011-02-08 1:14 ` Kees Cook
2011-02-08 3:43 ` James Morris
2011-02-08 4:27 ` Kees Cook
2011-02-08 20:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-10 2:44 ` James Morris
2011-02-10 3:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-10 6:38 ` Kees Cook [this message]
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