From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: x32-abi@googlegroups.com, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: X32 psABI status
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:57:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102132357.29725.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D585F5F.6030708@zytor.com>
On Sunday 13 February 2011, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> We prototyped using the int $0x80 system call entry point. However,
> there are two disadvantages:
>
> a. the int $0x80 instruction is much slower than syscall. An actual
> i386 process can use the syscall instruction which is disambiguated
> by the CPU based on mode, but an x32 process is in the same CPU mode
> as a normal 64-bit process.
Well, you could simply change entry.S to allow syscall with high numbers
to have the same effect as int $0x80, but not introduce another table
to solve this.
> b. 64-bit arguments have to be split between two registers for the
> i386 entry points, requiring user-space stubs.
64 bit arguments are very rare, and most of those syscalls are not
performance critical, so this could be dealt with on a case-by-case
basis, possibly by introducing a new syscall number for the variant
passing a 64 bit register.
> All in all, the cost of an extra system call table is quite modest.
The memory size overhead may be small, but auditing another table
for every change could become a noticable burden (your though, not mine).
> The cost of an entire different ABI layer (supporting a new memory layout)
> would be enormous, a.k.a. "not worth it", which is why the memory layout
> of kernel objects needs to be compatible with i386.
Right, this makes sense, you certainly can't redefine all the data
structures.
What would probably be a good idea is to compare the set of syscalls
in X32 and asm-generic, and to either eliminate or document the
differences. You can probably even take the asm-generic syscall numbers,
even if you keep the i386 data structures.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-13 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-12 19:41 X32 psABI status H.J. Lu
2011-02-12 21:10 ` Florian Weimer
2011-02-12 21:29 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-12 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 3:02 ` Andrew Pinski
2011-02-13 8:48 ` Florian Weimer
2011-02-13 13:45 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 15:07 ` Florian Weimer
2011-02-13 15:13 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 15:21 ` Florian Weimer
2011-02-13 15:37 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 16:35 ` Petr Baudis
2011-02-13 16:48 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 17:37 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-02-13 15:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2011-02-13 15:57 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 20:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-13 21:10 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 21:28 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 22:12 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 21:33 ` Alan Cox
2011-02-14 1:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 22:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-13 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-13 22:57 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-02-13 23:03 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-13 23:39 ` Alan Cox
2011-02-13 23:50 ` H.J. Lu
2011-02-14 1:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
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