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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Marcelo Roberto Jimenez <mroberto@cpti.cetuc.puc-rio.br>
Subject: Re: [rtc-linux] [PATCH 04/10] RTC: Cleanup rtc_class_ops->read_alarm()
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:07:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110222230724.GK31611@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1298412634.9215.110.camel@work-vm>

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:10:34PM -0800, john stultz wrote:

> Although For me, I see multiplexing events becoming too useful a bit of
> functionality to offload to a userland API. Especially since there might
> be conflicting approaches to the userland coordination (Want to open a
> file? There's one call you have to make. Want to draw a on the screen?
> Well, there's X or fb or maybe wayland, etc).

Of course one can equally make the argument that this sort of
multiplexing decision is policy and the multiple independant
ideas for how it should work suggests we shouldn't be picking something
for them.  I don't feel *that* strongly about it, though.

> Now, your observation about the behavior of persistence over reboots is
> a interesting corner-case that I overlooked. And I do want to address
> that as best we can, but I think it is an unreasonable expectation for
> applications to have, given that much common hardware doesn't support
> it.

What would probably help here if we're going to keep this support in
would be to make the current state and perhaps also the underlying
hardware features more discoverable.  That way userspace can preserve
the state when shutting down if it wants to.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-22 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-21 23:55 [PATCH 00/10] [RFC] RTC: Cleanups for 2.6.39 John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 01/10] RTC: Cleanup rtc_class_ops->irq_set_state John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 02/10] RTC: Cleanup rtc_class_ops->irq_set_freq() John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 03/10] RTC: Cleanup rtc_class_ops->update_irq_enable() John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 04/10] RTC: Cleanup rtc_class_ops->read_alarm() John Stultz
2011-02-22  2:34   ` [rtc-linux] " Mark Brown
2011-02-22  2:55     ` John Stultz
2011-02-22  8:09       ` john stultz
2011-02-22 12:51         ` Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
2011-02-22 19:35           ` john stultz
2011-02-22 19:51             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 19:58               ` john stultz
2011-02-22 21:26                 ` Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
2011-02-22 18:16         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 19:51           ` john stultz
2011-02-22 20:00             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 20:22               ` john stultz
2011-02-22 21:05                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 21:21                   ` john stultz
2011-02-22 21:27                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-02-22 21:40                       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 21:33                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-22 22:10                       ` john stultz
2011-02-22 23:07                         ` Mark Brown [this message]
2011-02-22 19:53           ` john stultz
2011-02-22 20:31             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 05/10] RTC: Clean out UIE icotl implementations John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 06/10] RTC: Include information about UIE and PIE in RTC driver proc John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 07/10] RTC: Remove UIE and PIE information from the sa1100 " John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 08/10] RTC: Fix the cross interrupt issue on rtc-test John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 09/10] RTC: sa1100: Update the sa1100 RTC driver John Stultz
2011-02-21 23:55 ` [PATCH 10/10] RTC: Fix up rtc.txt documentation to reflect changes to generic rtc layer John Stultz

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