From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
Eugene Teo <eugene@redhat.com>,
Dan Rosenberg <dan.j.rosenberg@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: module loading with CAP_NET_ADMIN
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:57:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110225155735.GA3724@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D67CAD7.7060408@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 18:29 +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> 25.02.2011 15:30, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:34 +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 18:12 +0300, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> >>> My proposal is changing request_module("%s", name) to something like
> >>> request_module("netdev-%s", name) inside of dev_load() and adding
> >>> aliases to related drivers.
>
> It is not the kernel patching which we should worry about, kernel
> part is trivial.
>
> What is not trivial is to patch all the systems out there who
> autoloads network drivers based on /etc/modprobe.d/network-aliases.conf
> (some local file), ie, numerous working setups which already
> uses this mechanism since stone age. And patching these is
> not trivial at all, unfortunately.
>
> Somewhat weird setups (one can load the modules explicitly, and
> nowadays this all is handled by udev anyway), but this change
> will break some working systems.
>
> Maybe the cost (some pain for some users) isn't large enough
> but the outcome is good, and I think it _is_ good, but it needs
> some wider discussion first, imho.
>
> I can't think of a way to handle this without breaking stuff.
Currently Linux slowly moves in the direction of rootless systems. This
definitely need proper restrictions of CAP_* power. Network admin does
nothing with general modules. It _has_ to break something one day
because old assumptions about permission stuff don't conform CAP_*
things: old assumptions are very closely connected with just everything.
I'm not sure how this particular CAP_NET_ADMIN misuse should be fixed,
maybe distributions should supply script to upgrade modprobe configs.
Also note that change s/CAP_SYS_MODULE/CAP_NET_ADMIN/ was made in
2.6.32, so there is a possibility that the set of affected distributions
(that doesn't use udev stuff) is very small.
Thanks for your input,
--
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-25 15:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-24 15:12 module loading with CAP_NET_ADMIN Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-24 16:34 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 12:30 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 15:14 ` [PATCH] don't allow CAP_NET_ADMIN to load non-netdev kernel modules Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 17:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-02-25 17:47 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 17:48 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 18:47 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:02 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 19:05 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:07 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 19:16 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:30 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 19:43 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:53 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 20:37 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 20:38 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 20:59 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-02-27 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-28 9:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2011-02-28 9:51 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-28 19:23 ` David Miller
2011-03-01 19:48 ` [PATCH] net: " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-01 20:13 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-01 21:33 ` [PATCH v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 7:15 ` Michael Tokarev
2011-03-09 22:06 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-09 22:09 ` David Miller
2011-03-09 22:53 ` James Morris
2011-03-10 9:49 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 16:01 ` Kees Cook
2011-03-02 19:39 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 19:43 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 19:49 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 20:18 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 20:38 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 20:40 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-22 20:47 ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 15:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 18:03 ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 18:33 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-24 20:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 21:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-24 21:46 ` David Miller
2011-03-24 21:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 22:15 ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 21:57 ` Greg KH
2011-03-26 10:35 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-27 11:44 ` [PATCH] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-27 23:18 ` David Miller
2011-02-27 23:19 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 15:29 ` module loading with CAP_NET_ADMIN Michael Tokarev
2011-02-25 15:57 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
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