From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
jan.kratochvil@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for ptrace improvements
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:57:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201103011757.48593.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110301152457.GE26074@htj.dyndns.org>
On Tuesday 01 March 2011 16:24, Tejun Heo wrote:
> PROPOSAL
> --------
> ...
> P3. Keep ptrace resume separate from and beneath jctl stop
>
> As written above, I think the current ptrace behavior, despite a lot
> of rough edges, is in the right direction in that ptrace operates
> beneath jctl. Therefore, keep the basic operation principles but
> clearly define how jctl and ptrace interacts, or rather, how they
> don't. The following two rules clearly separate jctl and ptrace.
>
> * jctl stop initiates when one of the stop signals is received and
> completes when all the member tasks participate in the group stop,
> where participation preciesly means that a member task stops in
> do_signal_stop(). Any member task can only participate once in any
> given group stop. ptrace does NOT make any difference in this
> regard.
This proposal adds a new rule for handling of stop notification
by debuggers. Let's spell it out, because currently strace
doesn't act according to this new rule:
"When waitpid indicates stop on a *stop* signal, then it may be either:
* a signal delivery (strace will inject this signal with PTRACE_SYSCALL(sig));
* or it may be a stop notification, in which case strace *must not*
try to inject this signal (this would be a bug, it'd make task running).
Instead, strace should just go back to waiting in waitpid().
These two possibilities can be distinquished by querying
PTRACE_GETSIGINFO. On stop notifications, PTRACE_GETSIGINFO
errors out - stop notification is not a signal delivery
and therefore it has no siginfo."
This is easy to implement (in strace at least).
> * However, PTRACE_DETACH should maintain the integrity of group stop.
> After a tracee is detached, it should be in a state which is
> conformant to the current jctl state. If jctl stop is in effect,
> the task should be put into TASK_STOPPED; otherwise, TASK_RUNNING.
This means that without changes to gdb, this:
# gdb -p pid_of_application_currently_in_jctl_stop
(gdb) print getpid()
(gdb) print show_me_your_internal_debug_dump()
(gdb) continue
will make application run, whereas this:
# gdb -p pid_of_application_currently_in_jctl_stop
(gdb) print getpid()
(gdb) print show_me_your_internal_debug_dump()
(gdb) quit
will leave application stopped. This looks a bit inconsistent to me.
Do you propose gdb to be chaged so that "continue" command
issues PTRACE_CONT only if gdb knows that application is not
in jctl stop?
--
vda
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-01 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-01 15:24 [RFC] Proposal for ptrace improvements Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 16:57 ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2011-03-01 17:09 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:12 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-01 18:34 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 23:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:10 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 5:07 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02 7:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:32 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02 11:52 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 13:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 0:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03 1:30 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-03 1:55 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03 7:03 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 19:06 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-01 22:14 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 10:58 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 16:14 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-04 16:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 18:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-05 8:47 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 22:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:32 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 19:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 23:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 7:37 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:27 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:48 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:43 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 15:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 15:25 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 17:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 20:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 8:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 18:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 8:33 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:01 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 13:41 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 14:31 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 17:05 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 18:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 16:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 8:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:15 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 15:08 ` PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-09 9:41 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-09 17:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 20:43 ` Roland McGrath
2011-03-09 10:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-10 18:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-11 8:13 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-11 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-11 9:35 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-03-11 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-14 1:03 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-03-10 15:55 ` Steven Rostedt
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