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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
Cc: subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>,
	Shubham Goyal <shubham@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ltp-list@lists.sf.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	chrubis@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for FEBRUARY 2011.
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:49:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201103021649.28430.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+pyy=Dr7-kMrSiG=5RHqY2L6P01m9hH171D8G@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 14:45:38 Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Subrata Modak
> 
> <subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 13:06 +0100, Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Shubham Goyal
> >> 
> >> <shubham@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > 
> >> > The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
> >> > FEBRUARY 2011. Please see ltp/INSTALL file carefully, as there has
> >> > been multiple changes for building/installing the test suite after the
> >> > recent changes in Makefile infrastructure.
> >> 
> >> Wouldn't make sense to integrate this test suite in the kernel source
> >> tree?
> > 
> > There was discussion like this some few years back. The idea was to get
> > some core tests from LTP to the kernel source tree. But then the idea
> > was dropped probably to avoid maintenance overhead ;-)
> 
> Putting LTP in the kernel.org sources really doesn't make sense for
> the following reasons:
> 
> 1. LTP isn't really tied to a single kernel release.
> 2. LTP isn't the only test project out there for Linux.
> 3. LTP has more stuff than it needs to have for testing out the kernel
> (well, it did more in the past before I started cleaning it up in the
> past couple of months).
> 4. Maintaining it will become a political bloodbath for both parties
> as Linux is loosely managed by Linus et all, and LTP has been largely
> developed by SGI and maintained by IBM and a few other parties like
> Fujitsu, Nokia, Redhat, etc.
> 5. Integrating LTP into Kbuild, etc would probably be non-trivial due
> to the size of LTP (but it might be easier after the Makefile
> restructuring I did a year and a half ago).

these are all very good reasons.  additional points:
 - ltp is pretty fsckin huge
 - ltp often times tests both sides of the userspace API/ABI -- between the 
kernel and the C library, and the C library and end applications
-mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-02 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-02 11:40 [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for FEBRUARY 2011 Shubham Goyal
2011-03-02 12:06 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2011-03-02 12:23   ` Subrata Modak
2011-03-02 19:45     ` Garrett Cooper
2011-03-02 21:49       ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2011-03-03  1:52     ` [LTP] " CAI Qian
2011-03-03 14:24       ` Cyril Hrubis
2011-03-04  8:21         ` CAI Qian
2011-03-04  9:04           ` Garrett Cooper
2011-03-04 18:58       ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-07 17:59         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-08  2:33           ` CAI Qian
2011-03-08 15:27             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-09  1:33               ` CAI Qian

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