From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:22:24 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110303072223.GA28133@elie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1102171035220.13904@cobra.newdream.net>
Hi,
Sage Weil wrote:
> - On machines with many of mounts, it is not at all uncommon for some of
> them to hang (e.g. unresponsive NFS server). sync(2) will get stuck on
> those and may never get to the one you do care about (e.g., /).
Fun to see this again.
> - Some applications (Ceph, dpkg) write lots of data to the file system and
> then want to make sure it is flushed to disk. Calling fsync(2) on each
> file introduces unnecessary ordering constraints that result in a large
> amount of sub-optimal writeback/flush/commit behavior by the file
> system.
FWIW dpkg uses sync_file_range(2) and only syncs the files it needs to
nowadays. Other apps in the same position should probably do the
same.[1][2]
> This patch introduces a new system call syncat(2) that mimics the existing
> *at() interfaces by taking an fd and/or path. The fd can be either an
> open file descriptor or AT_FDCWD, and the pathname can be either a path or
> (unlike the usual *at() style interface) NULL. Only the file system for
> the referenced file is synced.
Sounds like overengineering. The openat(2) family of calls are meant
to add flexibility to familiar calls that perform an operation with a
path relative to the cwd. To maintain familiarity, they include some
complication (AT_FDCWD, taking a relative path, and so on).
Since sync_one_filesystem(2) is new, why not just take a file or
directory fd (and perhaps flags for future expansion)? I can use
open(".", O_NONBLOCK) to get a file descriptor for the cwd.
> Is this a reasonable approach? (Patch below is compile tested only. :)
Sounds reasonably sane.
As for the patch: without the pathname arg it becomes much simpler.
To my inexpert eyes, aside from that it looks good.
Thanks,
Jonathan
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ext4/22190
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2010/11/threads.html#00075
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-03 7:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-03 6:35 [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-03 7:22 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2011-03-03 8:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-07 23:17 ` [RFC] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system (v2) Sage Weil
2011-03-08 5:27 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-10 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-10 19:28 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-10 19:31 ` [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-10 22:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 4:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-11 11:01 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 23:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 23:56 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12 1:53 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 2:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12 4:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 17:32 ` Greg KH
2011-03-14 1:56 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 4:29 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-14 9:27 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 10:22 ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-15 10:11 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-15 13:00 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 15:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-15 16:08 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 21:11 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 23:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-12 0:40 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12 1:33 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 2:52 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12 3:50 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 12:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12 18:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14 1:31 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:37 ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-14 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14 1:59 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 19:28 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:22 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 1:38 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 5:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-13 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
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