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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for ptrace improvements
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:07:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110304170737.GA26904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110304161441.GA12987@host1.jankratochvil.net>

On 03/04, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
>
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:14:14 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Currently it is already a problem that apps did not / do not expect the first
> > > waitpid after PTRACE_ATTACH may not be SIGSTOP.
> >
> > That's exactly why we want to add a better alternative, which doesn't
> > insert that blasted SIGSTOP.
>
> But it insteads blasted SIGTRAP (or some other signal) instead.

I don't really understand your concerns... If you modify gdb to use
PTRACE_SEIZE you can forget about the current problems with the first
signal.

Currently gdb has to take care, but mostly because it should "dismiss"
the real signal sent by attach.

> It would be best if such PTRACE_SEIZE (similar to PTRACE_INTERRUPT) would
> guarantee the first waitpid afterwards returns the artificial signal from
> PTRACE_SEIZE.

Again, I don't think this really matters.

Suppose that the tracee reports, say, a signal after PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT.
And this is possible anyway if the debugger races with kill(). Why this
is bad?

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-04 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 15:24 [RFC] Proposal for ptrace improvements Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 16:57 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-01 17:09   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:12     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 17:21     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-01 18:34       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 23:51         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02  7:10           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02  5:07         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02  7:44           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:32             ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-02 11:52               ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:50               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 13:32             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03  0:47               ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03  1:30                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-03  1:55                   ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-03  7:03                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 19:06 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-01 22:14   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02  7:28     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 10:58       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 16:14     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-04 16:41       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:07       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-03-04 18:12         ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-03-05  8:47           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 22:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02  7:32   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:02     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:23       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 19:26         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 23:16 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02  7:37   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:21     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 11:27       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 11:48         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 14:43           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 15:16             ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-02 15:25               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-03 17:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 20:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04  8:23     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 18:16       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05  8:33         ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:01     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 13:41       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 13:59         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:07           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 14:31             ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 14:40               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 17:05                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 17:12                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 18:59                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-03-04 19:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-04 16:13               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04  8:44   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-04 16:15       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-04 16:26         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 15:08 ` PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-09  9:41   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-09 17:30     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-07 20:43 ` Roland McGrath
2011-03-09 10:28   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-10 18:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-11  8:13       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-11  8:22       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-11  9:35         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-03-11  9:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-14  1:03     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-03-10 15:55   ` Steven Rostedt

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