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From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>, Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	tee@sgi.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: avoid atomic operation in test_and_set_bit_lock if possible
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:34:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201103251734.55239.knikanth@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110325111013.GA29521@elte.hu>

On Friday, March 25, 2011 04:40:13 pm Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:
> > >>> On 24.03.11 at 18:19, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > > * Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:
> > >> Are you certain? Iirc the lock prefix implies minimally a read-for-
> > >> ownership (if CPUs are really smart enough to optimize away the
> > >> write - I wonder whether that would be correct at all when it
> > >> comes to locked operations), which means a cacheline can still be
> > >> bouncing heavily.
> > > 
> > > Yeah. On what workload was this?
> > > 
> > > Generally you use test_and_set_bit() if you expect it to be 'owned' by
> > > whoever calls it, and released by someone else.
> > > 
> > > It would be really useful to run perf top on an affected box and see
> > > which kernel function causes this. It might be better to add a
> > > test_bit() to the affected codepath - instead of bloating all
> > > test_and_set_bit() users.
> > 
> > Indeed, I agree with you and Linus in this aspect.
> > 
> > > Note that the patch can also cause overhead: the test_bit() can miss
> > > the cache, it will bring in the cacheline shared, and the subsequent
> > > test_and_set() call will then dirty the cacheline - so the CPU might
> > > miss again and has to wait for other CPUs to first flush this
> > > cacheline.
> > > 
> > > So we really need more details here.
> > 
> > The problem was observed with __lock_page() (in a variant not
> > upstream for reasons not known to me), and prefixing e.g.
> > trylock_page() with an extra PageLocked() check yielded the
> > below quoted improvements.
> 
> The page lock flag is indeed one of those (rather rare) exceptions to
> typical object locking patterns. So in that particular case adding the
> PageLocked() test to trylock_page() would be the right approach to
> improving performance.
> 
> In the common case this change actively hurts for various reasons:
> 
>  - can turn a cache miss into two cache misses
>  - adds an often unnecessary branch instruction
>  - adds often unnecessary bloat
>  - leaks a barrier
> 

Yes, I think I am observing these ill-effects when testing the code copied to 
user-space.

Thanks
Nikanth

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-25 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-24  4:56 [PATCH RFC] x86: avoid atomic operation in test_and_set_bit_lock if possible Nikanth Karthikesan
2011-03-24  8:52 ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-24  8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 14:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-24 16:48     ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-24 17:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:06         ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-25 11:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:04             ` Nikanth Karthikesan [this message]
2011-03-25 13:12           ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-25 16:29           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-25 16:47             ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-25 16:49             ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 17:30       ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 20:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 20:40           ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 20:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 21:37               ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 20:48           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-24 20:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 21:02               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-24 21:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 23:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 23:56                     ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25  5:47                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25  9:32                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25  9:44                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25  9:59                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:50                               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-03-25 11:10                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-25 11:11                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 16:16                           ` Robert Richter
2011-03-25 17:22                           ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25 19:26                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25  9:38                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-25 20:29                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26  8:15                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-26  9:44                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26  9:57                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25  9:22                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 10:21                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-25 16:08                           ` Robert Richter
2011-03-25 19:31                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 17:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-25 19:21                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25  9:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Jack Steiner
2011-03-24 18:38 ` Andi Kleen

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