From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Jamie Iles <jamie@jamieiles.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vapier@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCHv2 1/4] drivers/otp: add initial support for OTP memory
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:11:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201103281511.00621.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110326151050.GA27822@suse.de>
On Saturday 26 March 2011, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:25:03PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 March 2011 00:28:47 Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, that is how it used to be, but then it turns out that both of them
> > > are really just "subsystems" as far as it all goes. They are just ways
> > > that devices are bound to drivers in a logical manner. We have patches
> > > floating around that get rid of both busses and classes to merge them
> > > together, which is the end goal here. I know Kay has posted detailed
> > > reasons for why this all is on lkml in the past, and had working code
> > > about 5 years ago, it's just been slow going...
> >
> > How will that work? I suppose we can't really change the directory
> > structure anyway, so to users it will still look like it does today,
> > even if the kernel just uses the same code for bus and class internally.
>
> Yes. But we can have symlinks instead of "real" /sys/class and
> /sys/bus directories like we do for /sys/block today. All of the major
> tools that use sysfs work properly with a /sys/subsystem/ setup today
> thanks to Kay's efforts.
I see. The migration from /sys/bus to /sys/subsystem plus symlinks
makes sense, but I still think that having symlinks that make sense
would be better than having symlinks that are purely there for historical
reasons.
One major flaw I see with registering abstract subsystems as a bus is
that a bus connected to the concept of a device_driver, and there is
a list of drivers with their respective devices in /sys/bus/*/drivers,
which would always be empty in this case. Similarly, the
/sys/bus/*/devices/*/driver symlinks for these subsystems would point
to drivers on other buses, unlike the respective symlinks for real
buses.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-28 13:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-24 15:21 [RFC PATCHv2 0/4] Support for OTP memory Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 15:21 ` [RFC PATCHv2 1/4] drivers/otp: add initial support " Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 18:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 20:35 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 21:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-25 10:08 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 21:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-25 22:27 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 22:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 19:20 ` Greg KH
2011-03-24 20:49 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 20:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 21:12 ` Greg KH
2011-03-25 22:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 23:28 ` Greg KH
2011-03-26 11:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-26 15:10 ` Greg KH
2011-03-28 13:11 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-03-25 22:23 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 22:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 22:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-25 22:52 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 23:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-26 0:21 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-26 2:16 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-26 2:40 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-26 10:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-26 17:55 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-26 20:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-27 3:52 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-27 11:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 22:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-24 15:21 ` [RFC PATCHv2 2/4] drivers/otp: add support for Picoxcell PC3X3 OTP Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 18:50 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 20:59 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 21:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 15:21 ` [RFC PATCHv2 3/4] drivers/otp: allow an ioctl to be specified Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 18:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 20:36 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 15:21 ` [RFC PATCHv2 4/4] drivers/otp: convert bfin otp to generic OTP Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 18:52 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 20:40 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 17:39 ` [RFC PATCHv2 0/4] Support for OTP memory Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 17:47 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 17:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 18:32 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-24 18:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-03-24 20:38 ` Jamie Iles
2011-03-25 0:12 ` Mark Brown
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