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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@fastmail.fm>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] RCU: Add TASK_RCU_OFFSET
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:47:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330004725.GO2261@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D9256AF.5000308@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 03:01:19PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 03/29/2011 02:47 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:32:30PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> On 03/29/2011 02:31 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to say that if we have to use hardcoded offsets in C then we have
> >>>> bigger problems.
> >>>
> >>> In this case, the offsets are mechanically generated from the structure
> >>> definitions.
> >>>
> >>> Or am I missing your point?
> >>
> >> Yes.  The point is if we have to pull out these kinds of hacks in *C*
> >> code, we are doing it wrong.  Not just a little wrong, but completely
> >> and totally bonkers wrong.
> > 
> > OK, maybe we are doing it wrong.
> > 
> > But in that case, how do you suggest restructuring include/linux/sched.h
> > so that struct task_struct can be safely included everywhere
> > rcu_read_lock() and friends are invoked?  Or, on the other hand,
> > what should we be doing so that we don't need to include task_struct
> > everywhere?
> 
> Lai's text doesn't give any hint as to the specific nature of the
> conflict, which makes it hard to come up with a better alternative
> without having to rediscover the problem from first principles.
> However, a somewhat logical assumption is that the problem is that
> struct task_struct includes struct rcu_head, in which case the easiest
> thing to do is almost certainly to move the definition of struct
> rcu_head to its own header file, <linux/rcuhead.h>, and include that in
> <linux/sched.h>, which should make it possible to include
> <linux/sched.h> in <linux/rcupdate.h>.

I believe that there are other circular dependencies -- there certainly
were a few years back -- but I will defer to Lai.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-28  2:55 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add kernel-offset file and make rcu_read_[un]lock() included Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-28  2:58 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] Move task's RCU code to rcupdate.h Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-31 11:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31 23:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-28  2:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] kbuild: dedumplicated the generating code Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-28  8:31   ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-31 18:26   ` David Howells
2011-03-28  2:59 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] kbuild: add kernel-offset file Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-31 18:28   ` David Howells
2011-03-28  3:00 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] RCU: Add TASK_RCU_OFFSET Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-28  8:35   ` Jan Beulich
2011-03-29  9:41     ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-29 21:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-29 21:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-29 21:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-29 21:47           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-29 22:01             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-30  0:47               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-03-30  5:25                 ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-30  7:22                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-30 10:55                     ` Michal Marek
2011-03-30 10:57                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 11:46                         ` Michal Marek
2011-03-31  1:02                           ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-31  1:21                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-31  1:53                               ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-31 23:30                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-01  3:28                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-31  8:04                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31  9:50                               ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-31 11:18                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-01  1:57                                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-01 11:35                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-05 21:54                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-05 23:07                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-06  8:10                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 19:21                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-06 20:13                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-06 21:06                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 21:27                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07  0:30                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-07  5:49                                                       ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-07 15:47                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-07 16:26                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-08  1:26                                                             ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-08  5:13                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-11  3:08                                                                 ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-11  5:12                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-11  6:01                                                                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-11  8:31                                                                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-11 21:02                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-11 21:24                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-22  7:19                                                                         ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-22  8:10                                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-25  7:21                                                                             ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-23 20:30                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-11  8:33                                                                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-07  7:05                                                       ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu: split rcupdate.h Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-07  7:07                                                       ` [PATCH 2/4] rcu: make rcudpate.h can use struct task_struct Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-07  7:07                                                       ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu: introduce task_rcu_struct and move task's RCU code to rcupdate_defs.h Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-07 13:40                                                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-04-07  7:08                                                       ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu: declare preemptible __rcu_read_[un]lock() as inline function Lai Jiangshan
2011-04-06 17:41                                           ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] RCU: Add TASK_RCU_OFFSET Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-31 19:28                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-31 19:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] RCU: declare preemptible __rcu_read_[un]lock() as inline function Lai Jiangshan
2011-03-28 22:17 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add kernel-offset file and make rcu_read_[un]lock() included Paul E. McKenney

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