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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: block: eliminate ELEVATOR_INSERT_REQUEUE
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:01:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330140123.GA28212@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330080203.GD17523@htj.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Mar 30 2011 at  4:02am -0400,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:

> Hello, Jens.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:59:09AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > Pure front insert should be used for requeue and internal commands (like
> > spin up this drive, or get error information). Flush should append to
> > the dispatch list.
> 
> Yeah, right.  The reason I used REQUEUE/FRONT was because BACK
> insertion involves draining the elevator and then appending the
> request at the end of the dispatch queue, which is unnecessary and
> inefficient.  So, front insertion was a quick work around that.  If
> we're removing elv_insert(), we can just append directly to the
> dispatch queue from flush code.

I'm trying to follow along but unrolling what was said above is
challenging considering we're not getting rid of elv_insert()'s
functionality; it was just folded into __elv_add_request() -- offering
no functional change AFAIK.  So placing special meaning on getting rid
of elv_insert() is confusing me.

Why can we all of a sudden append the flush to the dispatch queue _but_
not have any concern about queue draining?  Seems that avoiding use of
BACK, by using list_add_tail, is enabling that.  Couldn't we have always
done that?  The folding of elv_insert() into __elv_add_request() seems
irrelevant.

Can we take a step back and be more explicit about the implications of
having inserted the flush with REQUEUE/FRONT?  Seems to me that having
_not_ inserted the flush at the end of the dispatch queue is cause for
potential corruption (preceding data hasn't been issued to the device
yet).

And just to be clear: none of this is a concern for stable right?  It is
just the flush-merge code introduced for 2.6.39 that needs fixing?

Please advise, thanks!
Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-25 15:15 [OOPS] elevator private data for REQ_FLUSH Sergey Senozhatsky
2011-03-25 15:22 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-03-25 15:40   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-25 15:50     ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-25 18:54       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-25 19:50         ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-26  4:21           ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-28  8:23             ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-28 22:15               ` [PATCH] block: eliminate ELEVATOR_INSERT_REQUEUE (was: Re: elevator private data for REQ_FLUSH) Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 11:56                 ` [PATCH] block: eliminate ELEVATOR_INSERT_REQUEUE Jens Axboe
2011-03-29 14:18                   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 18:25                   ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-30  7:42                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30  7:53                     ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-29 14:13                 ` [PATCH] block: eliminate ELEVATOR_INSERT_REQUEUE (was: Re: elevator private data for REQ_FLUSH) Jeff Moyer
2011-03-29 17:54                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30  7:41                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30  7:57                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30  7:59                         ` [PATCH] block: eliminate ELEVATOR_INSERT_REQUEUE Jens Axboe
2011-03-30  8:02                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 10:16                             ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-30 11:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 11:23                                 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-30 11:21                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2011-03-30 11:22                                 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-30 11:49                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2011-03-30 13:46                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30 13:49                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 14:01                             ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2011-03-30 14:27                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 15:22                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30 15:30                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 17:13                                     ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-30 17:32                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-30 17:56                                       ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-30 18:12                                         ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-25 15:57   ` [OOPS] elevator private data for REQ_FLUSH Jens Axboe
2011-03-25 16:03     ` Markus Trippelsdorf

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