From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:53:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330195354.GA15046@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330183049.GK2255@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 03/30, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:37:30PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > So. synchronize_sched() above should ensure that all CPUs do context
> > switch at least once (ignoring idle). And I _thought_ that in practice
> > this should work.
> >
> > But, unles I misread the comment above synchronize_sched(), it seems that
> > it only guarantees the end of "everything" which disables preemption,
> > explicitly or not. IOW, say, in theory rcu_read_unlock_sched() could
> > trigger ->passed_quiesc == T without reschedule.
>
> For rcu_read_lock() in preemptible RCU, this is true.
Hmm, not sure I understand... Do you mean that with the current
implementation rcu_read_unlock() can imply rcu_sched_qs() without
rescheduling ?
> But for
> rcu_read_unlock_sched(), the only way rcu_note_context_switch() is called
> is if the code is preempted, which ends up calling schedule().
Indeed, that is why I thought synchronize_sched() can help in this
case. I meant, according to the documentation it could in theory.
But,
> > Oh, and this is not theoretical, afaics. run_ksoftirqd() does
> > rcu_note_context_switch().
>
> Interesting... Color me confused.
>
> Suppose the rcu_note_context_switch() in run_ksoftirqd() was replaced
> with schedule(). This has to be OK, right? But schedule() itself
> invokes rcu_note_context_switch(). So if it is OK to call schedule(),
> it should be OK to call rcu_note_context_switch() directly, right?
>
> So, what am I missing here?
It is me, not you.
Damn. It is even worse than I thought. Somehow I missed the simple
fact, schedule() does not necessarily mean context_switch(). So the
idea to use synchronize_sched() was simply wrong. Sorry to all for
wasting your time ;)
> > So, I think we need something else :/
>
> The thing that I would be more concerned about is the idle loop.
> If a CPU is in the idle loop, then rcu_sched_qs() will be invoked
> (and which is invoked by rcu_note_context_switch()). So is it
> illegal to use the above in the idle loop?
Not sure I understand what you mean, but the idle loop is fine.
An idle thread can't have the counters attached, we don't care
about them.
Thanks Paul,
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-30 19:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-24 16:44 [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value Jiri Olsa
2011-03-25 19:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 16:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 17:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-26 18:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 13:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 15:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-28 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-29 8:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-29 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-29 16:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-29 19:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 13:09 ` Jiri Olsa
2011-03-30 14:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 16:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-30 19:53 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-03-30 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 21:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 10:32 ` Jiri Olsa
2011-03-31 12:41 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix task context scheduling tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31 13:28 ` [PATCH,RFC] perf: panic due to inclied cpu context task_ctx value Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-31 14:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 15:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-30 15:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-30 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-26 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
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