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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] x86 idle cruft removal - v2
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:28:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110331102836.GA3723@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110331104549.3065ab29@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>


* Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> We don't care if it doesn't work on a few machines (in fact we have
> a table to avoid that), we care that it *DOES* work on lots.
> 
> Removing it probably isn't a bad thing long term, but it's not appeared in
> the deprecated list and has not been there for several releases so it is
> not eligible for removal at this point.
> 
> People spent years getting Linux to support all this hardware and
> throwing bits out left right and centre to tidy up your current project
> is not the way it should be done.
> 
> So can we do this properly please. We have a process for good reason.
> 
> Deprecate it properly

Ok, agreed. Len, mind delaying this patch for a few releases?

> Add a printk/WARN_ON() indicating to the user it is deprecated but we
> will continue, and then give it a couple of releaes. Kerneloops.org will
> help answer whether that WARN_ON was hit.

Yeah, also add a -stable backport so that older kernel users have a chance to 
notice faster.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-31 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-24  7:08 [PATCH 0/5] x86 idle cruft removal Len Brown
2011-03-24  7:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86 idle: remove "no-hlt" cmdline param Len Brown
2011-03-24  7:08   ` [PATCH 2/5] x86 idle: remove NOP cpuinfo_x86.hlt_works_ok flag Len Brown
2011-03-24  7:08   ` [PATCH 3/5] x86 idle: remove NOP halt_works() Len Brown
2011-03-24  7:08   ` [PATCH 4/5] x86 idle floppy: delete disable_hlt()/enable_hlt() Len Brown
2011-03-24 15:58     ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24  7:08   ` [PATCH 5/5] x86 idle: remove NOP hlt_use_halt() Len Brown
2011-03-25 19:02     ` [linux-pm] " Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2011-03-31  6:03 ` [PATCH 0/9] x86 idle cruft removal - v2 Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03   ` [PATCH 1/9] x86 idle: remove "no-hlt" cmdline param Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 2/9] x86 idle: remove NOP cpuinfo_x86.hlt_works_ok flag Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  7:02         ` Len Brown
2011-03-31  8:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  9:23             ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31  9:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  9:33                 ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31  9:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31 14:19                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-31 14:41                       ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31 15:09                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-31 18:07             ` Len Brown
2011-03-31 18:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 3/9] x86 idle: remove NOP halt_works() Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 4/9] x86 idle floppy: delete disable_hlt()/enable_hlt() Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 5/9] x86 idle: remove NOP hlt_use_halt() Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 6/9] x86 idle APM: delete apm_cpu_idle(), and its use of (pm_idle)() Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 7/9] x86 idle: do not EXPORT_SYMBOL pm_idle and default_idle Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 8/9] x86 idle: move mwait_idle_with_hints() to where it is used Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:03     ` [PATCH 9/9] x86 idle: delete mwait_idle() Len Brown
2011-04-01 11:02       ` Andreas Herrmann
2011-03-31  6:39   ` [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/9] x86 idle cruft removal - v2 Trinabh Gupta
2011-03-31  7:21     ` Len Brown
2011-03-31  9:45   ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31 10:28     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-04-01  4:24   ` Len Brown
2011-04-01  9:38     ` [linux-pm] " Trinabh Gupta
2011-04-01 18:33       ` Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22     ` idle cleanup - v3 Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22       ` [PATCH 01/18] cpuidle: menu: fixed wrapping timers at 4.294 seconds Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 02/18] x86 idle floppy: deprecate disable_hlt() Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 03/18] x86 idle APM: deprecate CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE Len Brown
2011-04-02 11:28           ` Alan Cox
2011-04-02 18:28             ` Len Brown
2011-04-02 19:44               ` Alan Cox
2011-04-08  6:22               ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 04/18] x86 idle: EXPORT_SYMBOL(default_idle, pm_idle) only when APM demands it Len Brown
2011-04-02 11:28           ` Alan Cox
2011-04-02 12:21             ` [linux-pm] " Trinabh Gupta
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 05/18] x86 idle: deprecate "no-hlt" cmdline param Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 06/18] x86 idle: deprecate mwait_idle() and "idle=mwait" " Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 07/18] x86 idle: clarify AMD erratum 400 workaround Len Brown
2011-04-02  8:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-04-02 19:19             ` Len Brown
2011-04-02 19:22               ` [PATCH 07/18] x86 idle: clarify AMD erratum 400 workaround -v2 Len Brown
2011-04-03  9:00                 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 08/18] cpuidle: create bootparam "cpuidle.off=1" Len Brown
2011-07-15 11:27           ` [linux-pm] " Deepthi Dharwar
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 09/18] cpuidle: replace xen access to x86 pm_idle and default_idle Len Brown
2011-04-04 15:33           ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 10/18] x86 idle: move mwait_idle_with_hints() to where it is used Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 11/18] cpuidle: stop using pm_idle Len Brown
2011-04-25 10:41           ` [linux-pm] " Trinabh Gupta
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 12/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle: remove deprecated "no-hlt" cmdline param Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 13/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle: remove deprecated "hlt_bug: no" in 32-bit /proc/cpuinfo Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 14/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle floppy: remove deprecated disable_hlt()/enable_hlt() Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 15/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle: remove deprecated hlt_use_halt() Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 16/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle APM: remove deprecated apm_cpu_idle() Len Brown
2011-04-02 11:40           ` Alan Cox
2011-04-02 19:44             ` Len Brown
2011-04-02 21:00               ` Alan Cox
2011-04-03  2:48                 ` [linux-pm] " Trinabh Gupta
2011-04-04 10:05                   ` Alan Cox
2011-04-02  6:22         ` [PATCH 17/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle: do not export default_idle() and (pm_idle)() Len Brown
2011-04-02  6:23         ` [PATCH 18/18] 2.6.40: x86 idle: remove deprecated mwait_idle() Len Brown

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