From: Eric B Munson <emunson@mgebm.net>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, paulus@samba.org, mingo@elte.hu,
acme@ghostprotocols.net, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] POWER: perf_event: Skip updating kernel counters if register value shrinks
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:14:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110331161456.GA4848@mgebm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1301551476.2407.61.camel@pasglop>
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 14:36 -0400, Eric B Munson wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:25 -0400, Eric B Munson wrote:
> > > > Here I made the assumption that the hardware would never remove more events in
> > > > a speculative roll back than it had added. This is not a situation I
> > > > encoutered in my limited testing, so I didn't think underflow was possible. I
> > > > will send out a V2 using the signed 32 bit delta and remeber to CC stable
> > > > this time.
> > >
> > > I'm not thinking about underflow but rollover... or that isn't possible
> > > with those counters ? IE. They don't wrap back to 0 after hitting
> > > ffffffff ?
> > >
> >
> > They do roll over to 0 after ffffffff, but I thought that case was already
> > covered by the perf_event_interrupt. Are you concerned that we will reset a
> > counter and speculative roll back will underflow that counter?
>
> No, but take this part of the patch:
>
> > --- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/perf_event.c
> > +++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/perf_event.c
> > @@ -416,6 +416,15 @@ static void power_pmu_read(struct perf_event *event)
> > prev = local64_read(&event->hw.prev_count);
> > barrier();
> > val = read_pmc(event->hw.idx);
> > + /*
> > + * POWER7 can roll back counter values, if the new value is
> > + * smaller than the previous value it will cause the delta
> > + * and the counter to have bogus values. If this is the
> > + * case skip updating anything until the counter grows again.
> > + * This can lead to a small lack of precision in the counters.
> > + */
> > + if (val < prev)
> > + return;
> > } while (local64_cmpxchg(&event->hw.prev_count, prev, val) != prev);
>
> Doesn't that mean that power_pmu_read() can only ever increase the value of
> the perf_event and so will essentially -stop- once the counter rolls over ?
>
> Similar comments every where you do this type of comparison.
>
Sorry for being so dense on this, but I think that when a counter overflows
both the register value and the previous value are reset so we should continue
seeing new event counts after the overflow interrupt handler puts the counter
back into a sane state. What am I not seeing?
Eric
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-25 13:28 [PATCH] POWER: perf_event: Skip updating kernel counters if register value shrinks Eric B Munson
2011-03-29 6:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-29 14:25 ` Eric B Munson
2011-03-29 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-30 18:36 ` Eric B Munson
2011-03-31 6:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-31 16:14 ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2011-04-06 21:27 ` Eric B Munson
2011-04-07 4:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-07 16:16 ` Eric B Munson
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