From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
"linux-raid@vger.kernel.org" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:05:05 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110411220505.1028816e@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA2E7F0.9010904@fusionio.com>
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:37:20 +0200 Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> wrote:
> On 2011-04-11 13:26, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:04:26 +0200 Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure one of us is missing something (probably both) but I'm not
> >>> sure what.
> >>>
> >>> The callback is central.
> >>>
> >>> It is simply to use plugging in md.
> >>> Just like blk-core, md will notice that a blk_plug is active and will put
> >>> requests aside. I then need something to call in to md when blk_finish_plug
> >>
> >> But this is done in __make_request(), so md devices should not be
> >> affected at all. This is the part of your explanation that I do not
> >> connect with the code.
> >>
> >> If md itself is putting things on the plug list, why is it doing that?
> >
> > Yes. Exactly. md itself want to put things aside on some list.
> > e.g. in RAID1 when using a write-intent bitmap I want to gather as many write
> > requests as possible so I can update the bits for all of them at once.
> > So when a plug is in effect I just queue the bios somewhere and record the
> > bits that need to be set.
> > Then when the unplug happens I write out the bitmap updates in a single write
> > and when that completes, I write out the data (to all devices).
> >
> > Also in RAID5 it is good if I can wait for lots of write request to arrive
> > before committing any of them to increase the possibility of getting a
> > full-stripe write.
> >
> > Previously I used ->unplug_fn to release the queued requests. Now that has
> > gone I need a different way to register a callback when an unplug happens.
>
> Ah, so this is what I was hinting at. But why use the task->plug for
> that? Seems a bit counter intuitive. Why can't you just store these
> internally?
>
> >
> >>
> >>> is called so that put-aside requests can be released.
> >>> As md can be built as a module, that call must be a call-back of some sort.
> >>> blk-core doesn't need to register blk_plug_flush because that is never in a
> >>> module, so it can be called directly. But the md equivalent could be in a
> >>> module, so I need to be able to register a call back.
> >>>
> >>> Does that help?
> >>
> >> Not really. Is the problem that _you_ would like to stash things aside,
> >> not the fact that __make_request() puts things on a task plug list?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, exactly. I (in md) want to stash things aside.
> >
> > (I don't actually put the stashed things on the blk_plug, though it might
> > make sense to do that later in some cases - I'm not sure. Currently I stash
> > things in my own internal lists and just need a call back to say "ok, flush
> > those lists now").
>
> So we are making some progress... The thing I then don't understand is
> why you want to make it associated with the plug? Seems you don't have
> any scheduling restrictions, and in which case just storing them in md
> seems like a much better option.
>
Yes. But I need to know when to release the requests that I have stored.
I need to know when ->write_pages or ->read_pages or whatever has finished
submitting a pile of pages so that I can start processing the request that I
have put aside. So I need a callback from blk_finish_plug.
(and I also need to know if a thread that was plugging schedules for the same
reason that you do).
NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-11 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-22 1:17 [PATCH 0/10] On-stack explicit block queue plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 01/10] block: add API for delaying work/request_fn a little bit Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 02/10] ide-cd: convert to blk_delay_queue() for a short pause Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:19 ` David Miller
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 03/10] scsi: convert to blk_delay_queue() Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 04/10] block: initial patch for on-stack per-task plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 21:23 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-10 16:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-10 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-10 19:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-16 8:18 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-16 17:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-17 1:00 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 3:19 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 9:44 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 1:55 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 9:43 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 6:36 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-18 12:54 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 13:52 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-21 6:52 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-21 9:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-22 0:32 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-22 7:36 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 9:39 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2011-03-03 21:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-03 21:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-03 22:13 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-04 13:02 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-04 13:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 21:43 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-04 21:50 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 22:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-05 20:54 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-07 19:43 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-07 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-08 9:41 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 0:54 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-07 8:07 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 12:16 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 20:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-08 20:27 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 21:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-09 7:25 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 22:05 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-10 0:58 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-05 3:05 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 4:50 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 9:19 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 10:59 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 11:26 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 11:37 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 12:05 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2011-04-11 12:11 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 12:36 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 12:48 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 1:12 ` hch
2011-04-12 8:36 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 12:22 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 12:28 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 12:41 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 12:58 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 13:31 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 13:45 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 14:34 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 21:08 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-13 2:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-13 11:23 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-13 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-13 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:58 ` hch
2011-04-12 17:29 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:44 ` hch
2011-04-12 16:49 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:54 ` hch
2011-04-12 17:24 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 13:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 13:48 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 23:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 16:50 ` hch
2011-04-15 4:26 ` hch
2011-04-15 6:34 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-17 22:19 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 4:19 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 6:38 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 7:25 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 8:10 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 8:33 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 8:42 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 21:23 ` hch
2011-04-22 15:39 ` hch
2011-04-22 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 16:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-18 21:30 ` hch
2011-04-18 22:38 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-20 10:55 ` hch
2011-04-18 9:19 ` hch
2011-04-18 9:40 ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-04-18 9:47 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 9:46 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 11:55 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 12:12 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 22:58 ` hch
2011-04-12 6:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 16:59 ` hch
2011-04-11 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 22:59 ` hch
2011-04-12 6:18 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 15:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-17 18:31 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 18:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-18 9:15 ` hch
2011-03-08 12:15 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 4:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-08 12:24 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 22:10 ` blk-throttle: Use blk_plug in throttle code (Was: Re: [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging) Vivek Goyal
2011-03-09 7:26 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 06/10] block: kill request allocation batching Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-24 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 07/10] fs: make generic file read/write functions plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 3:57 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-24 19:11 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 4:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-04 13:22 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 13:25 ` hch
2011-03-04 13:40 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 14:08 ` hch
2011-03-04 22:07 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 23:12 ` hch
2011-03-08 12:38 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-09 10:38 ` hch
2011-03-09 10:52 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 08/10] read-ahead: use plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 09/10] fs: make mpage read/write_pages() plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 10/10] fs: make aio plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 17:59 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:22 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:29 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:31 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:38 ` Jeff Moyer
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