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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Jeremy Kerr" <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, "Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Paul Mundt" <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Dima Zavin" <dmitriyz@google.com>,
	"Saravana Kannan" <skannan@codeaurora.org>,
	"Ben Dooks" <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Common struct clk implementation, v14
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:32:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110414103200.GF1611@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302776705.28876.113.camel@pasglop>

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:25:05PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:00 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > 
> > I will take it, but at the moment I'm rather unhappy about the response
> > from the community to Linus' complaint.
> > 
> > If existing platform maintainers can show that moving over to this will
> > result in a net reduction of code under arch/arm, then that will be good.
> > What I don't want to see at the moment is arch/arm increasing in size as
> > a result of any change.  We desperately need to see a reduction for the
> > next merge window.
> 
> It's a chicken and egg... platform maintainers wait for you to take it
> and you wait for them to take it :-)
> 
> It seems to me that this fits well into the category of "better common
> abstractions" that was discussed in the thread initiated by Linus as one
> of the ways to improve on the "clutter"...

That depends - sometimes creating generic stuff results in a net increase
in the overall size, and that's something that Linus also complained about.

According to linux-next, where we are at the moment with arch/arm is a
net increase of 6000 lines since the close of the last merge window,
and arch/arm is responsible for almost 75% of arch/ changes.  It looks
very much like the same situation which Linus complained about.

Can arch/arm continue to increase in size?  I think not.  We desperately
need patches which reduce the size of arch/arm, and we desperately need
them *now*.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-14 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-01  9:11 Locking in the clk API, part 2: clk_prepare/clk_unprepare Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-01 10:54 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 13:05   ` Jassi Brar
2011-02-01 14:00     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 15:14       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 15:22         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 15:28           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 20:57             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-02  2:31             ` Jassi Brar
2011-02-01 13:15   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 14:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 14:39       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 15:18         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 15:24           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 15:53             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 17:06               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 19:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-01 19:56                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 20:21                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-01 20:43                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04  9:33                         ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-01 20:06                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-01 20:33             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-01 20:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 20:59             ` Stephen Boyd
2011-02-01 21:24               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-04  9:54                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-04 10:21                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-04 10:57                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-04 10:48                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-04 11:04                     ` Jassi Brar
2011-02-04 11:18                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-04 11:51                         ` Jassi Brar
2011-02-04 12:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 14:40       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-04 12:45 ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-04 13:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-07  6:07 ` [RFC, PATCH 3/3] clk: add warnings for incorrect enable/prepare semantics Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07  6:29   ` Jassi Brar
2011-02-07  7:00     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07  8:05   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-07  8:08     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07 14:24       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-10  4:26         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-07  6:07 ` [RFC,PATCH 1/3] Add a common struct clk Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07  7:05   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-07  8:08   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTim1S9zpebn3yj1fBZTtOkqj2FLwhYWBZ2HXJajR@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-07  8:22     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07 19:59   ` Colin Cross
2011-02-08  1:40     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07 20:20   ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-08  2:54     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-08  3:30       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-08  7:28         ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07  6:07 ` [RFC,PATCH 0/3] Common struct clk implementation, v11 Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-07  6:07 ` [RFC,PATCH 2/3] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-09  6:41 ` [RFC,PATCH 0/3] Common struct clk implementation, v12 Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-09  6:41   ` [RFC,PATCH 2/3] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-09  6:58     ` Fabio Giovagnini
2011-02-10 23:23     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-15  1:41       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15  4:51         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-15  6:18           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15  6:31             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-09  6:41   ` [RFC,PATCH 1/3] Add a common struct clk Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-09  9:00     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-09 20:21     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-09 20:39       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-09 20:42         ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-10 10:03       ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-10 10:10         ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-10 12:45           ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-10 10:46         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-10 13:08           ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-10 13:13             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-15  1:36       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15  1:43         ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-10  5:16     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-15  2:41       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15  5:33         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-15  7:26           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15  8:33             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-15  8:37             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-15  9:33               ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-15 14:13                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-20 13:07                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-16  4:53           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-20 13:13           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09  6:41   ` [RFC, PATCH 3/3] clk: add warnings for incorrect enable/prepare semantics Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-10  9:37     ` Richard Zhao
2011-02-15  2:00       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-21  2:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Common struct clk implementation, v13 Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-21  2:50   ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a common struct clk Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-22 20:17     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-23  2:49       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-21  2:50   ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-21 19:51     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-02-21 23:29       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-02-22 23:33   ` [PATCH] wip: convert imx27 to common struct clk Uwe Kleine-König
2011-02-23  4:17     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-02-23  8:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-03-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 0/2] Common struct clk implementation, v14 Jeremy Kerr
2011-03-03  6:40   ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a common struct clk Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-14 12:49     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-03  6:40   ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Jeremy Kerr
2011-03-14 10:16   ` [PATCH 0/2] Common struct clk implementation, v14 Uwe Kleine-König
2011-03-15  4:31   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-03-21  2:33     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-14  4:20   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-14 10:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-14 10:23       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-14 10:26         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-14 10:25       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-14 10:32         ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-04-14 11:59           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-14 12:09             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-14 13:39               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-14 14:00                 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-14 15:38                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-14 16:06                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-14 17:20                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 10:54                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-04-20 14:28                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 16:41                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-14 19:29               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-14 16:08           ` Uwe Kleine-König

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