From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
"linux-raid@vger.kernel.org" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:25:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110418172551.55629fc6@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DABDC60.2090009@fusionio.com>
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:38:24 +0200 Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> wrote:
> On 2011-04-18 00:19, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:11:58 +0200 Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Yes. But I need to know when to release the requests that I have stored.
> >>> I need to know when ->write_pages or ->read_pages or whatever has finished
> >>> submitting a pile of pages so that I can start processing the request that I
> >>> have put aside. So I need a callback from blk_finish_plug.
> >>
> >> OK fair enough, I'll add your callback patch.
> >>
> >
> > But you didn't did you? You added a completely different patch which is
> > completely pointless.
> > If you don't like my patch I would really prefer you said so rather than
> > silently replace it with something completely different (and broken).
>
> First of all, you were CC'ed on all that discussion, yet didn't speak up
> until now. This was last week. Secondly, please change your tone.
Yes, I was CC'ed on a discussion. In that discussion it was never mentioned
that you had completely changed the patch I sent you, and it never contained
the new patch in-line for review. Nothing that was discussed was
particularly relevant to md's needs so there was nothing to speak up about.
Yes- there were 'git pull' requests and I could have done a pull myself to
review the code but there seemed to be no urgency because you had already
agreed to apply my patch.
When I did finally pull the patches (after all the other issues had settle
down and I had time to finish of the RAID side) I found ... what I found.
I apologise for my tone, but I was very frustrated.
>
> > I'll try to explain again.
> >
> > md does not use __make_request. At all.
> > md does not use 'struct request'. At all.
> >
> > The 'list' in 'struct blk_plug' is a list of 'struct request'.
>
> I'm well aware of how these facts, but thanks for bringing it up.
>
> > Therefore md cannot put anything useful on the list in 'struct blk_plug'.
> >
> > So when blk_flush_plug_list calls queue_unplugged() on a queue that belonged
> > to a request found on the blk_plug list, that queue cannot possibly ever be
> > for an 'md' device (because no 'struct request' ever belongs to an md device,
> > because md doesn't not use 'struct request').
> >
> > So your patch (commit f75664570d8b) doesn't help MD at all.
> >
> > For md, I need to attach something to blk_plug which somehow identifies an md
> > device, so that blk_finish_plug can get to that device and let it unplug.
> > The most sensible thing to have is a completely generic callback. That way
> > different block devices (which choose not to use __make_request) can attach
> > different sorts of things to blk_plug.
> >
> > So can we please have my original patch applied? (Revised version using
> > list_splice_init included below).
> >
> > Or if not, a clear explanation of why not?
>
> So correct me if I'm wrong here, but the _only_ real difference between
> this patch and the current code in the tree, is the checking of the
> callback list indicating a need to flush the callbacks. And that's
> definitely an oversight. It should be functionally equivelant if md
> would just flag this need to get a callback, eg instead of queueing a
> callback on the list, just set plug->need_unplug from md instead of
> queuing a callback and have blk_needs_flush_plug() do:
>
> return plug && (!list_empty(&plug->list) || plug->need_unplug);
>
> instead. Something like the below, completely untested.
>
No, that is not the only real difference.
The real difference is that in the current code, md has no way to register
anything with a blk_plug because you can only register a 'struct request' on a
blk_plug, and md doesn't make any use of 'struct request'.
As I said in the Email you quote above:
> > Therefore md cannot put anything useful on the list in 'struct blk_plug'.
That is the heart of the problem.
NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-18 7:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-22 1:17 [PATCH 0/10] On-stack explicit block queue plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 01/10] block: add API for delaying work/request_fn a little bit Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 02/10] ide-cd: convert to blk_delay_queue() for a short pause Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:19 ` David Miller
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 03/10] scsi: convert to blk_delay_queue() Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 04/10] block: initial patch for on-stack per-task plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 21:23 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-10 16:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-10 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-10 19:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-16 8:18 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-16 17:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-17 1:00 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 3:19 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 9:44 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 1:55 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-17 9:43 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 6:36 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-18 12:54 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-18 13:52 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-21 6:52 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-21 9:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-22 0:32 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-22 7:36 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 9:39 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2011-03-03 21:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-03 21:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-03 22:13 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-04 13:02 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-04 13:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 21:43 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-04 21:50 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 22:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-05 20:54 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-07 19:43 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-07 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-08 9:41 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 0:54 ` Shaohua Li
2011-03-07 8:07 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 12:16 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 20:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-08 20:27 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 21:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-09 7:25 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 22:05 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-10 0:58 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-05 3:05 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 4:50 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 9:19 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 10:59 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 11:26 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 11:37 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 12:05 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 12:11 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 12:36 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 12:48 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 1:12 ` hch
2011-04-12 8:36 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 12:22 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 12:28 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 12:41 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 12:58 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 13:31 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 13:45 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 14:34 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 21:08 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-13 2:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-13 11:23 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-13 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-13 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-13 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:58 ` hch
2011-04-12 17:29 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:44 ` hch
2011-04-12 16:49 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 16:54 ` hch
2011-04-12 17:24 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 13:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 13:48 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-12 23:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 16:50 ` hch
2011-04-15 4:26 ` hch
2011-04-15 6:34 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-17 22:19 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 4:19 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 6:38 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 7:25 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2011-04-18 8:10 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 8:33 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-18 8:42 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 21:23 ` hch
2011-04-22 15:39 ` hch
2011-04-22 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 16:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-18 21:30 ` hch
2011-04-18 22:38 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-20 10:55 ` hch
2011-04-18 9:19 ` hch
2011-04-18 9:40 ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-04-18 9:47 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-18 9:46 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 11:55 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 12:12 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 22:58 ` hch
2011-04-12 6:20 ` Jens Axboe
2011-04-11 16:59 ` hch
2011-04-11 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2011-04-11 22:59 ` hch
2011-04-12 6:18 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 15:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-17 18:31 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-17 18:46 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-18 9:15 ` hch
2011-03-08 12:15 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 4:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-08 12:24 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-08 22:10 ` blk-throttle: Use blk_plug in throttle code (Was: Re: [PATCH 05/10] block: remove per-queue plugging) Vivek Goyal
2011-03-09 7:26 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 06/10] block: kill request allocation batching Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-24 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 07/10] fs: make generic file read/write functions plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 3:57 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-24 19:11 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 4:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-04 13:22 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 13:25 ` hch
2011-03-04 13:40 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 14:08 ` hch
2011-03-04 22:07 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 23:12 ` hch
2011-03-08 12:38 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-09 10:38 ` hch
2011-03-09 10:52 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 08/10] read-ahead: use plugging Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 09/10] fs: make mpage read/write_pages() plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-22 1:17 ` [PATCH 10/10] fs: make aio plug Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 17:59 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:09 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:22 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:29 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-01-24 19:31 ` Jens Axboe
2011-01-24 19:38 ` Jeff Moyer
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