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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: John Williams <john.williams@petalogix.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hjk@hansjkoch.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] uio/pdrv_genirq: Add OF support
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:32:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201104190932.31777.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110419061121.GB5252@ponder.secretlab.ca>

On Tuesday 19 April 2011, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:58:25AM +1000, John Williams wrote:
> >
> > I know the arguments against the 'generic-uio' tag, but come on, let's
> > look at the lesser of two evils here!  I call BS on this DTS purity.

Both a specific device ID and something like "generic-uio" are
equally broken:

If you have generic-uio, it is impossible to write an in-kernel driver
for the same hardware without changing the device tree, meaning that
it is impossible to correctly describe the hardware in the device tree.

If you put a meaningful identifier into the match table, it is also
impossible to have an in-kernel driver for the hardware, because now
you have no way to choose whether to handle the device with UIO
or an in-kernel driver.

There may be cases where you have two instances of the same device
in a machine and  want one of them to be driven by UIO and the other
by another driver. A common example of this would be a virtual machine
where one device is passed through to the guest and the other is
used by the host. I've done this for USB input devices and PCI network
interfaces.
 
> Call it what you like, but the reasons are well founded.  The alternative
> that has been proposed which I am in agreement with is to investigate
> giving userspace the hook to tell the kernel at runtime which devices
> should be picked up by the uio driver.

Yes, I believe this is the best option.

> In the mean time, explicitly modifying the match table is an okay
> compromise.

Agreed.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-19  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-18  8:50 [PATCH v3] uio/pdrv_genirq: Add OF support Michal Simek
2011-04-18 10:35 ` Paul Mundt
2011-04-18 11:10   ` Michal Simek
2011-04-18 16:06 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-04-19  1:58   ` John Williams
2011-04-19  6:11     ` Grant Likely
2011-04-19  7:32       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-04-19 12:37       ` John Williams
2011-04-19 13:02         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 14:49         ` Grant Likely
2011-04-19 15:07           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 15:45             ` Grant Likely
2011-04-21 12:08     ` Wolfram Sang
2011-04-21 23:46       ` John Williams
2011-04-22  6:07         ` Wolfram Sang
2011-04-19  8:16   ` Michal Simek
2011-04-19  6:08 ` Grant Likely
2011-04-19  8:15   ` Michal Simek
2011-04-19 22:00   ` Hans J. Koch
2011-04-19 23:09     ` Scott Wood
2011-04-27 11:05   ` Michal Simek

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