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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>,
	Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [3/3]
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:13:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110419161301.GA23914@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110419165429.71cb1508@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On 04/19, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > The use case is to daemonize the process with threads.
> > You first need to detach it from its parent, then use TIOCNOTTY
> > ioctl to detach from the tty (TIOCNOTTY_GRP doesn't seem
> > to exist too, though, but might be easy to implement).
> > There are a few workarounds to that that I am aware of,
> > but what exactly interfaces do you have in mind? I have
> > found nothing that allows to do the same without a workarounds
> > like this:
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/8/278
> > The current way of detaching, which is a fork/exit combo,
> > loses all threads, so, when you call daemon() and you had
> > threads, you are a toast.
>
> Yes - you need to detach then create the threads.
>
> The reason I ask is you appear to add overhead to various hot paths

... and complicates this code.

> and
> you add 48 bytes to each task struct if I read the code right. Thats half
> a megabyte on a server running a pile of java gunge !

... to add the non-portable (and _imho_ unneeded) feauture.

IOW, personally I do not like this change in any case. But I am not
going to argue if someone acks this new feauture.




I'll try to check these patches from the correctness pov tomorrow,
but to be honest I hope someone will nack them before I start ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-19 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-23 13:50 [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command Stas Sergeev
2011-02-23 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-23 20:35   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-02-24 13:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-24 15:13       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-02-24 15:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 16:10           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-03-31 17:02             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 17:47               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-03-31 18:18                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-31 20:58                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 13:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-02 18:20                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 22:00                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-01 17:02               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-02 14:06                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 14:34               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-04 16:03                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-04 20:05                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-05 15:15                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-05 16:25                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-05 16:45                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-05 17:51                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 10:51                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 18:55                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-08 20:16                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-11 11:15                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:44                           ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [1/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:50                           ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [2/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:54                           ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [3/3] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 14:58                             ` Alan Cox
2011-04-19 15:08                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 15:54                                 ` Alan Cox
2011-04-19 16:13                                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-04-19 16:29                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 16:54                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 17:20                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 17:41                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-19 18:17                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-19 16:19                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 13:12                                   ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [1/2] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 13:14                                   ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command [2/2] Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 16:50                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-20 18:45                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-20 19:33                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-20 20:35                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 20:00                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-21 20:11                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 10:02                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-21 20:15                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-04-21 20:32                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 18:13 ` [path][rfc] add PR_DETACH prctl command Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 20:26   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 20:52     ` Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 21:14       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-04-08 21:25         ` Bryan Donlan
2011-04-08 21:38           ` Stas Sergeev

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