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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 01/32] TRACE_EVENT: gradual semicolon removal
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 00:01:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110503220059.GD2678@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110503212656.GG32331@Krystal>

On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 05:26:57PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> > > * Why do this incrementally ?
> > 
> > Preaching to the choir?
> 
> I've been asked to explain myself on this topic by Frederic last time I
> posted this patchset, so I added the explanation to the changelog.

Explaining it in the cover letter is enough :)

> > 
> > > 
> > > After this preliminary patch, the semicolon removal can be done gradually
> > > without breaking the build: we can be in an intermediate state with some files
> > > having semicolons and others without. This is therefore good for
> > > bissectability, and seems like a nice way to bring in an internal API change
> > > without making developers suffer too much. Then, once things are stabilized, we
> > > can start modifying the Ftrace code to generate the more space-efficient arrays
> > > (possibly in a release-cycle or so), knowing that this enforces a strict
> > > requirement on semicolon removal.
> > 
> > Mathieu, I like the patch, but I think you explain too much ;)
> 
> Or too little, depending on the maintainer. ;-)

Well, I did never asked for 1000 lines of changelog ;)
The real problem with your previous set is that your arguments were
either too weak (double ";" in generated code doesn't alone justify
a massive change like this) or too foggy (the array of field
idea was not developed enough to be understanble whereas it was the
only sane reason for this massive change).

Just explain briefly that the end goal is for storing fields in an array
with a quick example and you are done with few dozen lines for
your changelog.

People simply don't review fat changelogs.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-02 21:11 [RFC patch 00/32] TRACE_EVENT: cleanup for code-size reduction Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 02/32] trace event sample remove semicolons, specify need for ifdef around declarations Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 14:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 03/32] trace event block remove semicolumns Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 04/32] trace event ext4 remove semicolons Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 05/32] trace event irq " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 06/32] trace event jbd2 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 07/32] trace event kmem " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 08/32] trace event kvm " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 09/32] trace event lock " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 10/32] trace event mce " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 11/32] trace event module " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 12/32] trace event napi " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 12:26   ` Neil Horman
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 13/32] trace event net " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 12:27   ` Neil Horman
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 14/32] trace event power " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 12:59   ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 15/32] trace event sched remove trailing semicolon Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 16/32] trace event scsi remove semicolons Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 17/32] trace event signal " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 18/32] trace event skb " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 12:27   ` Neil Horman
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 19/32] trace event syscalls " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 20/32] trace event timer " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 21/32] trace event vmscan " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 22/32] trace event workqueue " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03  8:25   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 23/32] trace event writeback " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 24/32] trace event wireless " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 25/32] trace event video gpu " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 26/32] trace event gfs2 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 10:14   ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-05-03 21:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 27/32] trace event xfs " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 28/32] trace event powerpc " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 29/32] trace event asoc " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 13:21   ` Mark Brown
2011-05-03 14:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 14:14       ` Mark Brown
2011-05-03 14:24         ` Mark Brown
2011-05-03 14:34           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-03 21:29             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 20:57           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 21:30             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 14:30       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-03 14:29   ` Mark Brown
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 30/32] trace event compaction " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 31/32] trace event regulator " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 14:30   ` Mark Brown
2011-05-02 21:11 ` [RFC patch 32/32] trace event btrfs " Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <20110502213211.250108074@efficios.com>
2011-05-03 14:07   ` [RFC patch 01/32] TRACE_EVENT: gradual semicolon removal Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 14:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-03 14:53       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]   ` <1304422337.25414.2382.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
2011-05-03 21:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 22:01       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-03 23:10 [RFC patch 00/32] TRACE_EVENT: cleanup for code-size reduction (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-03 23:10 ` [RFC patch 01/32] TRACE_EVENT: gradual semicolon removal Mathieu Desnoyers

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