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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kees.cook@canonical.com,
	agl@chromium.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works.
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:03:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110504170353.GA1804@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304526163.10692.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:22:40PM -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 12:06 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 11:54 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> > 
> > > As this is a deny by default interface which only allows you to further
> > > restrict you couldn't add more than 1 syscall if you didn't have an
> > > explict 'apply' action.
> > > 
> > > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_fo, "a=0"
> > > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1" == EPERM
> > > 
> > > Maybe apply on set is fine after the first apply, but we definitely need
> > > some way to do more than 1 set before the rules are applied....
> > 
> > So we could have SET be 'or' and APPLY be 'and'.
> > 
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "a=0"
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1" == EPERM
> 
> When I said "== EPERM" I meant that the given prctl call would return
> EPERM.  I'm going to pretend that you didn't type it.
> 
> > SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
> > 
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "b=0"
> > SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
> > 
> > Will end up being:
> > 
> > (foo: a == 0 || read: "1") && (foo: b == 0)
> > 
> > The second set/apply now removes the read option, and foo only works if
> > a is 0 and b is 0.
> > 
> > This would also work for children, as they can only restrict (with
> > 'and') and can not add more control.
> 
> I think we pretty much agree although I'm pretty that we will have 1
> filter per syscall.  So the rules would really be (in your syntax)
> 
> Rule1: (foo: a == 0 && b == 0)
> OR
> Rule2: (read: "1")
> 
> Although logically the same, it's not just one huge rule.  I don't see
> any need for any operation other than an &&.  Before the first "set" you
> can add new syscalls.  After the first set you can only && onto existing
> syscalls.  So the following set of operations:
> 
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "a=0"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1"
> SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
>  
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "b=0"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_APPLY
> 
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_write, "1"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_APPLY
> 
> Would return EPERM for the __NR_write entry since it was a new syscall
> after a set.  I think we agree on all this.

No, why?

The default filter for a syscall, if none have been given for it, is "0".

Thus, if you write "1" later, the entire filter is going to be:

	"0 && 1"

Which is fine, we are not overriding already applied permissions there.

So where is the need to return -EPERM in such a specific case? Is it
worth the corner case to check in the kernel, and to handle in userspace?
And for what reason?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-04 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-28  3:08 [PATCH 2/7] tracing: split out syscall_trace_enter construction Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] seccomp_filter: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Will Drewry
2011-04-28 13:50   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 15:30     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:20       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 16:56       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:02         ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 14:29   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:15     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 15:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 16:05         ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 15:12   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:20     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:29     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 16:48         ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 17:36           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 18:21             ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 16:53     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:55   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 17:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 17:39       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 18:01         ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 18:21           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:34             ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 18:54               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 19:07                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 19:06               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:51           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-03  8:39   ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-28  3:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] seccomp_filter: add process state reporting Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:21   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-28  3:24     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:40       ` Al Viro
2011-04-28  3:43         ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 22:54       ` James Morris
2011-05-02 10:08         ` Will Drewry
2011-05-12  3:04   ` [PATCH 4/5] v2 " Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:08 ` [PATCH 5/7] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works Will Drewry
2011-04-28  7:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-28 14:56     ` Eric Paris
2011-04-28 18:37       ` Will Drewry
2011-04-29 13:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-29 16:13           ` Will Drewry
2011-05-03  1:29             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-03  1:47               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04  9:15                 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04  9:29                   ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04 17:52                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04 18:23                     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 18:30                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04 18:46                         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-05  9:21                           ` Will Drewry
2011-05-05 13:14                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-12  3:20                               ` Will Drewry
2011-05-06 11:53                             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-06 13:35                               ` Eric Paris
2011-05-07  1:58                               ` Will Drewry
2011-05-12  3:04                                 ` [PATCH 5/5] v2 " Will Drewry
2011-05-06 16:30                             ` [PATCH 5/7] " Eric Paris
2011-05-07  2:11                               ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04 12:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 15:54                   ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 16:06                     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 16:22                       ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 16:39                         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 18:02                           ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 17:03                         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-05-04 17:55                           ` Eric Paris
2011-04-28 17:43     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 15:46   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-04-28 18:23     ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:08 ` [PATCH 6/7] include/linux/syscalls.h: add __ layer of macros with return types Will Drewry
2011-04-28  3:08 ` [PATCH 7/7] arch/x86: hook int returning system calls Will Drewry

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