From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kees.cook@canonical.com,
agl@chromium.org, jmorris@namei.org,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works.
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:03:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110504170353.GA1804@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304526163.10692.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:22:40PM -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 12:06 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 11:54 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> >
> > > As this is a deny by default interface which only allows you to further
> > > restrict you couldn't add more than 1 syscall if you didn't have an
> > > explict 'apply' action.
> > >
> > > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_fo, "a=0"
> > > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1" == EPERM
> > >
> > > Maybe apply on set is fine after the first apply, but we definitely need
> > > some way to do more than 1 set before the rules are applied....
> >
> > So we could have SET be 'or' and APPLY be 'and'.
> >
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "a=0"
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1" == EPERM
>
> When I said "== EPERM" I meant that the given prctl call would return
> EPERM. I'm going to pretend that you didn't type it.
>
> > SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
> >
> > SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "b=0"
> > SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
> >
> > Will end up being:
> >
> > (foo: a == 0 || read: "1") && (foo: b == 0)
> >
> > The second set/apply now removes the read option, and foo only works if
> > a is 0 and b is 0.
> >
> > This would also work for children, as they can only restrict (with
> > 'and') and can not add more control.
>
> I think we pretty much agree although I'm pretty that we will have 1
> filter per syscall. So the rules would really be (in your syntax)
>
> Rule1: (foo: a == 0 && b == 0)
> OR
> Rule2: (read: "1")
>
> Although logically the same, it's not just one huge rule. I don't see
> any need for any operation other than an &&. Before the first "set" you
> can add new syscalls. After the first set you can only && onto existing
> syscalls. So the following set of operations:
>
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "a=0"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_read, "1"
> SECCOPM_FILTER_APPLY
>
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_foo, "b=0"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_APPLY
>
> SECCOMP_FILTER_SET, __NR_write, "1"
> SECCOMP_FILTER_APPLY
>
> Would return EPERM for the __NR_write entry since it was a new syscall
> after a set. I think we agree on all this.
No, why?
The default filter for a syscall, if none have been given for it, is "0".
Thus, if you write "1" later, the entire filter is going to be:
"0 && 1"
Which is fine, we are not overriding already applied permissions there.
So where is the need to return -EPERM in such a specific case? Is it
worth the corner case to check in the kernel, and to handle in userspace?
And for what reason?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-04 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-28 3:08 [PATCH 2/7] tracing: split out syscall_trace_enter construction Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] seccomp_filter: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Will Drewry
2011-04-28 13:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 15:30 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 16:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:02 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 14:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:15 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 15:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 16:05 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 15:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 15:29 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 16:48 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 17:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-28 18:21 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 16:53 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 16:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 17:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 17:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 18:01 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 18:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:34 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 18:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 19:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 19:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-28 18:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-03 8:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-28 3:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] seccomp_filter: add process state reporting Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-28 3:24 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:40 ` Al Viro
2011-04-28 3:43 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 22:54 ` James Morris
2011-05-02 10:08 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-12 3:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] v2 " Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:08 ` [PATCH 5/7] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works Will Drewry
2011-04-28 7:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-28 14:56 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-28 18:37 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-29 13:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-29 16:13 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-03 1:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-03 1:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04 9:15 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04 9:29 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04 17:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04 18:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 18:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-04 18:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-05 9:21 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-05 13:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-12 3:20 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-06 11:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-06 13:35 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-07 1:58 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-12 3:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] v2 " Will Drewry
2011-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] " Eric Paris
2011-05-07 2:11 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-04 12:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 15:54 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 16:22 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 16:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-04 18:02 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-04 17:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-05-04 17:55 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-28 17:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-04-28 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-04-28 18:23 ` Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:08 ` [PATCH 6/7] include/linux/syscalls.h: add __ layer of macros with return types Will Drewry
2011-04-28 3:08 ` [PATCH 7/7] arch/x86: hook int returning system calls Will Drewry
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