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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: jan.kratochvil@redhat.com, vda.linux@googlemail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, indan@nul.nu,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/11] ptrace: make group stop state visible via PTRACE_GETSIGINFO
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:08:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110511080852.GA1661@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110510165545.GA30198@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 06:55:45PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> IOW, if the tracee reports via ptrace_notify*, the tracee can look at
> si_pt_flags == stop-in-effect. If the tracer reports a signal, the
> tracer obviously lacks this info, hmm.

Which indicates tracee is in group stop trap.

> Probably I need more time to get used to this... But at first glance
> this looks a bit unnatural. Say, can't we simply implement
> PTRACE_GET_GROUP_STOP_STATUS request which returns this (and probably
> more) info?

I don't know.  PTRACE_GETSIGINFO seemed to already fit the bill and I
want to avoid introducing a new request if at all possible.  It sure
is a bit quirky but doesn't compromisea functionality.

> > __SI_TRAP is defined to implement copying of
> > the new field to userland.
> 
> Heh. I am shy to admit, I didn't know copy_siginfo_to_user() trims
> si_code, that is why your change is correct but I spent a lot of time
> before I was able to understand this.

Oh, don't be shy.  I scratched my head for quite a while trying to
figure out why the hell the new flag field isn't getting out to
userland.  It's an ugly piece of sh*t.  :-)

> > 		  if (!ptrace(PTRACE_GETSIGINFO, tracee, NULL, &si)) {
> > 			  if (si.si_code) {
> > 				  stopped = !!si.si_status;
> 
> In this case this "si_code != 0" check is correct, but how can the
> tracer detect this case in general?

This was quick hack.  Proper test would look like,

	si.si_code && (si.si_pt_flags & PTRACE_SI_STOPPED)

> > @@ -540,6 +542,17 @@ static int ptrace_getsiginfo(struct task_struct *child, siginfo_t *info)
> > +	if ((child->ptrace & PT_SEIZED) &&
> > +	    (info->si_code & (0x7f | ~0xffff)) == (__SI_TRAP | SIGTRAP)) {
> 
> Can't we simply check (from->si_code & __SI_MASK) == __SI_TRAP ?

Right, I originally lifted the test from ptrace_notify() before adding
__SI_TRAP and forgot to update it later.  Will change.

> > +		/* report whether group stop is in effect w/ SI_STOPPED */
> > +		if (sig->group_stop_count || (sig->flags & SIGNAL_STOP_STOPPED))
> 
> We have more and more "group_stop_count || SIGNAL_STOP_STOPPED" checks,
> perhaps we should make a helper. Or at least invent the short name to
> denote the group-stopped-or-in-progress to simplify the discussions ;)

Yeah, how about group_stop_in_effect()?

> Still, this is strange. With this change ptrace_getsiginfo() reports
> the extra "volatile" info which wasn't reported by the tracee itself.
> If the tracer does PTRACE_SETSIGINFO twice in a row, it can see the
> different si_pt_flags's.

(answering to both get/setsiginfo concerns)

* I think we better block PTRACE_SETSIGINFO for non signal delivery
  traps.  It doesn't make any sense.  Let's just fail that with
  -EINVAL if PT_SEIZED.

* I don't think PTRACE_GETSIGINFO returning volatile information to be
  problematic.  The information is generated on the fly on trap
  anyway.  For non signal delivery traps, PTRACE_GETSIGINFO is
  basically (ab)using siginfo as a container for debugging
  information.  It might have been better if something else was used
  from the beginning but the damage is already done and I don't see
  too much benefit in making things pretty at this point.

Thank you.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-11 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-08 15:48 [PATCHSET ptrace] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT and group stop notification Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:48 ` [PATCH 01/11] job control: rename signal->group_stop and flags to jobctl and rearrange flags Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:48 ` [PATCH 02/11] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE Tejun Heo
2011-05-09 16:18   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-10  9:46     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 13:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-10 13:47         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 18:19           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-15 15:56   ` PTRACE_SEIZE should not stop [Re: [PATCH 02/11] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE] Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 16:26     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 17:15       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 17:25         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 19:48           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16  8:31             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 12:26               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 12:42                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 13:03                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 13:51                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 13:21               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 13:45                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 13:48                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 13:54                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:48 ` [PATCH 03/11] ptrace: ptrace_check_attach(): rename @kill to @ignore_state and add comments Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:48 ` [PATCH 04/11] ptrace: implement PTRACE_INTERRUPT Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 21:58   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-09 10:09     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-09 10:55       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-09 16:58   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-10  9:50     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 14:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-10 14:20         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 18:08           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11  8:29             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 17:06               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 17:21                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 21:59         ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-11  9:19           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 12:23             ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-11 13:22               ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 16:20                 ` Bryan Donlan
2011-05-11 19:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 16:10             ` PTRACE_DETACH without stop [Re: [PATCH 04/11] ptrace: implement PTRACE_INTERRUPT] Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 16:35               ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 17:39                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16  9:01                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 12:08                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 12:24                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:48 ` [PATCH 05/11] ptrace: restructure ptrace_getsiginfo() Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 06/11] ptrace: make group stop state visible via PTRACE_GETSIGINFO Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 16:55   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-10 17:11     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11  8:08     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-05-12 16:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 17:15         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 07/11] ptrace: add JOBCTL_TRAPPED Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 08/11] ptrace: move fallback JOBCTL_TRAPPING clearing to get_signal_to_deliver() Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 15:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11 19:17     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 15:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 09/11] job control: reorganize wait_task_stopped() Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 15:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11 19:29     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 15:42       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 16:02         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 17:25           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 17:32             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 17:33               ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 18:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-13  8:46                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13 17:21                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-14 10:56                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 14:40               ` waitpid(WNOHANG) should report SIGCHLD-notified signals [Re: [PATCH 09/11] job control: reorganize wait_task_stopped()] Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 16:47                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 17:01                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 17:47                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16  9:13                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 12:11                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 12:27                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 12:39                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 12:46                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 10/11] ptrace: move JOBCTL_TRAPPING wait to wait(2) and ptrace_check_attach() Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 16:49   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11 17:00     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11 19:45       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 19:53     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 10:23       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 16:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 15:59       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-12 16:07         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 18:20           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-13  9:13             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13 18:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-08 15:49 ` [PATCH 11/11] ptrace: implement group stop notification for ptracer Tejun Heo
2011-05-08 22:42   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-09 10:10     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-10 22:37   ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-11  9:05     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 12:01       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-11 13:13         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 19:58   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-11 20:18     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-11 20:21       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 10:24         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 14:02   ` getter PTRACE_GETSIGINFO should not modify anything [Re: [PATCH 11/11] ptrace: implement group stop notification for ptracer] Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 14:28     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 17:17       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-15 17:28         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 20:06           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16  8:43             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 12:17               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-05-16 12:56                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 13:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-08 22:27 ` [PATCHSET ptrace] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT and group stop notification Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-09  9:48   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-15 13:55   ` ptrace-testsuite status [Re: [PATCHSET ptrace] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT and group stop notification] Jan Kratochvil

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