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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	benh <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>, davem <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] perf, x86: Use GO/HO bits in perf-ctr
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:21:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110512092153.GC8707@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DCA87FA.4070902@redhat.com>

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 03:58:34PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 05/10/2011 06:04 PM, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:48:20AM -0400, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> >  On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:35 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>> >  >  The AMD perf-counters support counting in guest or host-mode
>> >  >  only. Make use of that feature when user-space specified
>> >  >  guest/host-mode only counting.
>> >
>> >  Subject mentions x86, does Intel have anything similar so you can make
>> >  it work for them too?
>>
>> Intel does not support guest or host-only counting in the hardware (at
>> least according to my documentation). If wanted it could be approximated by
>> enabling/disabling the counters in the guest-entry path.
>
> vmx has support for atomically swapping MSRs during guest entry and exit  
> (you can load guest MSRs on entry, save guest MSRs on exit, and load  
> host MSRs on exit, but you can't save host MSRs on entry, so host-only  
> counters cannot be 100% accurate).  We'd need some kvm/perf hooks to  
> program these MSR swaps, and to manually save the counters that cannot  
> be done automatically.

Well, wenn host counters are not saved on vmentry then we just need to
save them manually (which is a one-time thing and does not need to
happen at every vmentry).
Thanks for that information, when I am back in office on monday I'll try
to grab a machine and hopefully get this running.

> btw, your patchset can be further improved by integrating  
> exclude_guest/exclude_host into the constraints.  For example if we have  
> three general purpose counters, two generic perf_events in user, one  
> exclude_guest perf_event, and one exclude_host perf_event, we can  
> schedule them all at all times, swapping the exclude_guest and  
> exclude_host events during guest entry/exit.

Well, it will need some additional code in the amd vmrun path too. I'll
take a look at it, but probably leave it as a future optimization.
Thanks for the hint.

	Joerg


  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-12  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-10 14:35 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] perf support for amd guest/host-only bits Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, core: Introduce attrs to count in either host or guest mode Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 14:59     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 15:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:38         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 16:07           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 16:25             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-11 11:44   ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 11:45     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 13:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-11 13:52         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 14:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf, x86: Use GO/HO bits in perf-ctr Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:04     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-11 12:58       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12  9:21         ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf, tools: Add support for guest/host-only profiling Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:08     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 15:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:46         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 16:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] perf support for amd guest/host-only bits Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 15:50   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 20:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-11  8:57       ` Joerg Roedel

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