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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/5] KVM in-guest performance monitoring
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:34:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110513123434.GK8707@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DCBF0B7.7080102@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 05:37:43PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 05/12/2011 05:24 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:

> One thing we could do is paravirtualize at a lower level, introduce a  
> hypercall for batch MSR reads and writes.  So we can use the existing  
> PMU semantics and code, just optimize the switch.  This is similar to  
> what Xen did with lazy cpu updates, and what kvm did for paravirt  
> pagetable writes.

In general a good idea. For MSR writes this isn't trivial as well. MSR
reads and writes can cause a #GP, this needs to be represented in this
interface. Can we allow that a batched MSR write changes the operation
mode of the vcpu and so on.
Or we limit this interface to the PMU MSRs, then we are pretty much at
a paravirt-pmu.


> I've considered something similar for mmio - use hypercalls for ordinary  
> mmio to avoid calling into the emulator - but virtio uses pio which  
> isn't emulated and we don't have massive consumers of mmio (except  
> perhaps hpet).
>
> (and we can have a cpuid bit that advertises whether we recommend to use  
> this feature for PMU MSRs; if/when we get hardware support, we turn it 
> off)

A cpuid-bit that indicates which pmu is prefered is certainly a good
idea.

	Joerg


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-13 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11 15:55 [PATCH v1 0/5] KVM in-guest performance monitoring Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] perf: add context parameter to perf_event overflow handler Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:07     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] x86, perf: add constraints for architectural PMU v1 Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] perf: export perf_event_refresh() to modules Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] KVM: Expose kvm_lapic_local_deliver() Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 15:55 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] KVM: Expose a version 1 architectural PMU to guests Avi Kivity
2011-05-17 19:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18  9:03     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 11:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18 11:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 11:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18 11:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 11:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 12:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18 12:49               ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-03 14:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-05  8:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12  9:33 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] KVM in-guest performance monitoring Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12  9:47   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-12  9:53     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 13:11     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:23       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-12 13:43         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:24         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 14:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:45             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-13 12:34             ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2011-05-12  9:51   ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 13:06     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-12 13:38       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12 14:29         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-17  9:52 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:45   ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01 10:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01 11:26       ` Avi Kivity

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