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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL rcu/next] rcu commits for 2.6.40
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 01:52:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110516235239.GD1738@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110516212449.GJ2573@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:24:49PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:23:29PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > 
> > > > In the meantime, would you be willing to try out the patch at 
> > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/14/89?  This patch helped out Yinghai in 
> > > > several configurations.
> > > 
> > > Wasn't this the one i tested - or is it a new iteration?
> > > 
> > > I'll try it in any case.
> > 
> > oh, this was a new iteration, mea culpa!
> > 
> > And yes, it solves all problems for me as well. Mind pushing it as a fix? :-)
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Unfortunately, the only reason I can see that it works is (1) there
> is some obscure bug in my code or (2) someone somewhere is failing to
> call irq_exit() on some interrupt-exit path.  Much as I might be tempted
> to paper this one over, I believe that we do need to find whatever the
> underlying bug is.
> 
> Oh, yes, there is option (3) as well: maybe if an interrupt deschedules
> a process, the final irq_exit() is omitted in favor of rcu_enter_nohz()?
> But I couldn't see any evidence of this in my admittedly cursory scan
> of the x86 interrupt-handling code.
> 
> So until I learn differently, I am assuming that each and every
> irq_enter() has a matching call to irq_exit(), and that rcu_enter_nohz()
> is called after the final irq_exit() of a given burst of interrupts.
> 
> If my assumptions are mistaken, please do let me know!

About 2), I believe that such an unpairing would have been detected before
your whole patchset was merged.
For example if an interrupt failed to call rcu_irq_exit(), we would have
found cases where we have:

rcu_enter_nohz()
<irq>
	rcu_irq_enter()
</irq>
rcu_exit_nohz()

And then that last call would trigger "WARN_ON_ONCE(!(rdtp->dynticks & 0x1))".

But may be there was a patch in your set that touched one of these rcu_irq_...
callsites.

About 3), it shouldn't happen because preempt_schedule_irq() is called in the
exit path of the low level interrupt handler. rcu_exit_irq() is called from
the higher level, before resuming to the low level.

That said there might be something nasty that the old checks in the QS APIs
were missing.

I think it would be nice to add some checks in rcu-lockdep inside
rcu_read_lock()/rcu_dereference() to ensure rdp->dynticks is not even, ie
that we are not in an extended qs. That's something I planned to add for
my next nohz tasks patchset version, because I bring more dance with the
extended quiescent state, but given the problems we are facing today, it
may be better sooner.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-08 15:18 [GIT PULL rcu/next] rcu commits for 2.6.40 Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-09  7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-09 21:09   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-10  8:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-10  9:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 18:04       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-10 19:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-10 20:52           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11  4:54             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11  6:03               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11  6:42               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 20:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11 16:54               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 16:56               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 20:18                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11 20:59                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 21:30                     ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 23:02                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  6:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12  7:27                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  7:42                             ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  9:20                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-12 17:31                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12 21:36                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-13  1:28                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-13  8:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:19                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:04                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:12                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 14:14                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-13 15:07                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:26                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:08                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16  7:48                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 11:51                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 12:23                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 14:30                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 21:33                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 22:07                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 21:24                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 23:52                                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-05-17  2:40                                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-17  7:53                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-17 12:43                                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-17 22:21                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-18 21:10                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-18 23:13                                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19  4:33                                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-19 14:47                                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19 19:51                                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-19 21:15                                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19 21:45                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-20  0:09                                                                             ` [PATCH] rcu: Fix unpaired rcu_irq_enter() from locking selftests Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-20  8:36                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 15:12                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-20 15:11                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-20  0:14                                                                             ` [GIT PULL rcu/next] rcu commits for 2.6.40 Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-13 14:40                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:38                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:10                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 21:08                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-14 14:26                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-14 15:31                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-14 18:34                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15  3:59                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  4:14                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  5:41                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  5:49                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  6:04                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15  6:59                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:08                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:39                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-15  6:01                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15 22:01                                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-16  5:56                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 22:40                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker

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