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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	"npiggin@kernel.dk" <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [patch V3] percpu_counter: scalability works
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:50:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110517095001.GF20624@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305625541.2850.29.camel@edumazet-laptop>

Hello, Eric.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:45:41AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> _sum() is a bit more precise than percpu_counter_read(), but to make it
> really precise, we means we have to stop concurrent activities, and we
> never did in previous/current implementation.
> 
> We could add this (as Shaohua and myself tried in various patches)
> later, if needed, but nowhere in kernel we currently need that.
> 
> Even /proc/meminfo doesnt call _sum(&vm_committed_as) but the lazy
> percpu_counter_read_positive() function...
> 
> Reammy _sum() gives a good approximation of the counter, more precise
> because of the percpu s32 folding, but no guarantee of deviation.

I'm not asking to make it more accurate but the initial patches from
Shaohua made the _sum() result to deviate by @batch even when only one
thread is doing _inc() due to the race window between adding to the
main counter and resetting the local one.  All I'm asking is closing
that hole and I'll be completely happy with it.  The lglock does that
but it's ummm.... not a very nice way to do it.

Please forget about deviations from concurrent activities.  I don't
care and nobody should.  All I'm asking is removing that any update
having the possibility of that unnecessary spike and I don't think
that would be too hard.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-17  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11  8:10 [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 1/5] percpu_counter: fix code for 32bit systems for UP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 2/5] lglock: convert it to work with dynamically allocated structure Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 3/5] percpu_counter: use lglock to protect percpu data Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 4/5] percpu_counter: use atomic64 for counter in SMP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:34   ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12  2:40     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 5/5] percpu_counter: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:28 ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  2:48   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:21     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  8:55       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:59         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  9:02           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:03             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:05             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13  3:09               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  4:37               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  5:20                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  5:28                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  6:34                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  7:33                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 14:51                       ` [patch] percpu_counter: scalability works Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 15:39                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:35                           ` [patch V2] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:46                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 22:03                               ` [patch V3] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  0:58                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:11                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  6:37                                     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:55                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  7:15                                         ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  7:44                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  8:34                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  9:35                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 14:22                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  0:55                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  4:56                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  5:22                                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  9:01                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:11                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17  9:45                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:50                                                               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-05-17 12:20                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 12:45                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:00                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 13:04                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:55                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 14:02                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 14:38                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-18  1:00                                                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 14:38   ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Christoph Lameter

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