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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Shirley Ma <xma@us.ibm.com>,
	lguest@lists.ozlabs.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	steved@us.ibm.com, habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/18] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:24:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110519072412.GA31253@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87boz3dsoe.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 04:43:21PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:48:18 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:27:33PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > On Wed, 4 May 2011 23:52:33 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > Add an API that tells the other side that callbacks
> > > > should be delayed until a lot of work has been done.
> > > > Implement using the new used_event feature.
> > > 
> > > Since you're going to add a capacity query anyway, why not add the
> > > threshold argument here?
> > 
> > I thought that if we keep the API kind of generic
> > there might be more of a chance that future transports
> > will be able to implement it. For example, with an
> > old host we can't commit to a specific index.
> 
> No, it's always a hint anyway: you can be notified before the threshold
> is reached.  But best make it explicit I think.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rusty.


I tried doing that and remembered the real reason I went for this API:

capacity is limited by descriptor table space, not
used ring space: each entry in the used ring frees up multiple entries
in the descriptor ring. Thus the ring can't provide
callback after capacity is N: capacity is only available
after we get bufs.

We could try and make the API pass in the number of freed bufs, however:
- this is not really what virtio-net cares about (it cares about
  capacity)
- if the driver passes a number > number of outstanding bufs, it will
  never get a callback. So to stay correct the driver will need to
  track number of outstanding requests. The simpler API avoids that. 


APIs are easy to change so I'm guessing it's not a major blocker:
we can change later when e.g. block tries to
pass in some kind of extra hint: we'll be smarter
about how this API can change then.

Right?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-04 20:50 [PATCH 00/18] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:50 ` [PATCH 01/18] virtio: 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:50 ` [PATCH 02/18] virtio_test: update for " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:50 ` [PATCH 03/18] vhost: fix " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 04/18] virtio: don't delay avail index update Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 05/18] virtio: used event index interface Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 21:56   ` Tom Lendacky
2011-05-05  9:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 06/18] virtio_ring: avail " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-09  4:13   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-15 12:47     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16  6:23       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-17  6:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18  0:08           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 07/18] virtio ring: inline function to check for events Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-05  8:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-05  8:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 08/18] virtio_ring: support for used_event idx feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-09  4:17   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-15 12:47     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 09/18] virtio: use avail_event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 21:58   ` Tom Lendacky
2011-05-05  9:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-09  4:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-15 13:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16  7:12       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-17  6:10         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18  0:19           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-18  5:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19  7:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-17 16:23         ` Tom Lendacky
2011-05-04 20:51 ` [PATCH 10/18] vhost: utilize used_event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 11/18] vhost: support avail_event idx Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 12/18] virtio_test: support used_event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 13/18] virtio_test: avail_event index support Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 14/18] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-09  5:57   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-15 12:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16  7:13       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19  7:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-05-20  7:43           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 15/18] virtio_net: delay TX callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:52 ` [PATCH 16/18] virtio_ring: Add capacity check API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-04 20:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] virtio_net: limit xmit polling Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-05 15:07 ` [PATCH 0/3] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-05 15:08   ` [PATCH 1/3] virtio: fix avail event support Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-05 15:08   ` [PATCH 2/3] virtio_ring: check used_event offset Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-05 15:08   ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio_ring: need_event api comment fix Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-09  5:59     ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-11 17:10 ` [PATCH 00/18] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Krishna Kumar2

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