From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gnatapov@redhat.com,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:48:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526094806.GC19536@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526093040.GB19536@elte.hu>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> You are missing the geniality of the tools/kvm/ thread pool! :-)
>
> It could be switched to a worker *process* model rather easily.
> Guest RAM and (a limited amount of) global resources would be
> shared via mmap(SHARED), but otherwise each worker process would
> have its own stack, its own subsystem-specific state, etc.
We get VM exit events in the vcpu threads which after minimal
processing pass much of the work to the thread pool. Most of the
virtio work (which could be a source of vulnerability - ringbuffers
are hard) is done in the worker task context.
It would be possible to further increase isolation there by also
passing the IO/MMIO decoding to the worker thread - but i'm not sure
that's truly needed. Most of the risk is where most of the code is -
and the code is in the worker task which interprets on-disk data,
protocols, etc.
So we could not only isolate devices from each other, but we could
also protect the highly capable vcpu fd from exploits in devices -
worker threads generally do not need access to the vcpu fd IIRC.
Thanks,
Ingo
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2011-05-24 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Kees Cook
2011-05-25 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 16:40 ` Will Drewry
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2011-05-25 18:01 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 19:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 19:54 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-25 19:11 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-09 9:00 ` Sven Anders
2011-05-26 14:37 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 15:28 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 16:33 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:02 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:04 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:38 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:05 ` david
2011-05-26 19:09 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-26 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:49 ` david
2011-05-26 18:49 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] tracing: split out filter initialization and clean up Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] tracing: split out syscall_trace_enter construction Will Drewry
2011-06-01 7:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-01 17:15 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 15:18 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] seccomp_filters: new mode with configurable syscall filters Will Drewry
2011-06-02 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 18:14 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 20:28 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 20:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-02 21:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] seccomp_filter: add process state reporting Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works Will Drewry
2011-06-01 21:23 ` Kees Cook
2011-06-01 23:03 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] x86: add HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] arm: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] microblaze: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and provide seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 5:37 ` Michal Simek
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] mips: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] s390: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] powerpc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] sparc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:35 ` David Miller
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] sh: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-02 5:27 ` Paul Mundt
2011-05-26 17:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:08 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 17:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:34 ` david
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 1:19 ` James Morris
2011-05-26 6:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 8:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 8:57 ` Pekka Enberg
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2011-05-26 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-26 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-26 11:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 0:12 ` James Morris
2011-05-29 16:51 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-05-29 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-29 18:23 ` Al Viro
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