From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:11:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526111127.GF1763@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526104636.GL29458@redhat.com>
* Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> > In that model each process has its own stack, not accessible to
> > other worker processes. They'd only share the guest RAM image and
> > some (minimal) global state.
> >
> > This way the individual devices are (optionally) isolated from
> > each other. In a way this is a microkernel done right ;-)
>
> But doesn't this design suffer the same problem as microkernel?
> Namely a lot of slow IPCs?
Most of the IPCs we do already, to keep the devices separated from
each other. So the most common type of IPC comes 'for free' in that
model - and this is specific to virtualization so i'd not extend the
claim to the host kernel.
virtio is an IPC mechanism to begin with.
It's certainly not entirely free though so if this is implemented in
tools/kvm/ it should be configurable.
Thanks,
Ingo
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2011-05-24 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Kees Cook
2011-05-25 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 16:40 ` Will Drewry
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2011-05-25 18:01 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 19:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 19:54 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-25 19:11 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-09 9:00 ` Sven Anders
2011-05-26 14:37 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 15:28 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 16:33 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:02 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:04 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:38 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:05 ` david
2011-05-26 19:09 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-26 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:49 ` david
2011-05-26 18:49 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] tracing: split out filter initialization and clean up Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] tracing: split out syscall_trace_enter construction Will Drewry
2011-06-01 7:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-01 17:15 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 15:18 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] seccomp_filters: new mode with configurable syscall filters Will Drewry
2011-06-02 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 18:14 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 20:28 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 20:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-02 21:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] seccomp_filter: add process state reporting Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works Will Drewry
2011-06-01 21:23 ` Kees Cook
2011-06-01 23:03 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] x86: add HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] arm: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] microblaze: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and provide seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 5:37 ` Michal Simek
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] mips: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] s390: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] powerpc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] sparc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:35 ` David Miller
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] sh: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-02 5:27 ` Paul Mundt
2011-05-26 17:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:08 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 17:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:34 ` david
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 1:19 ` James Morris
2011-05-26 6:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 8:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 8:57 ` Pekka Enberg
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2011-05-26 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-26 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-26 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 11:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 0:12 ` James Morris
2011-05-29 16:51 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-05-29 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-29 18:23 ` Al Viro
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