From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
jan.kratochvil@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
indan@nul.nu, bdonlan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:55:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110526145545.GC12525@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526091041.GC9715@htj.dyndns.org>
On 05/26, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> This reminded me of another issue. Currently we have two different
> methods of reporting debug events. One is direct ptrace event trap,
> which ends up in ptrace_stop() from the event site and thus is
> synchronous. The other is sending SIGTRAP, literally. Besides the
> usual problems related with implicitly sending signals, this also
> makes it difficult to determine which event is happening exactly and
> makes the whole signal delivery/injection thing much worse.
>
> I suspect that all ptrace traps probably started as actual SIGTRAPs
> and so all the events were reported via signal delivery path and so
> the signal "injection" worked; however, now we have synchronous traps
> and some SIGTRAPs, which are confusing and unreliable. I don't see
> any reason why the events which are currently reported via SIGTRAPs
> can't be reported via ptrace traps with unique PTRACE_EVENT_*. I
> don't think we can take synchronous traps directly but we can schedule
> them, record relevant information in preallocated area and just set
> TIF_SIGPENDING and let the signal delivery path report the trap. This
> will make all the events reliable and easily distinguishible and we
> can fix the SIGTRAP signal problem. What do you think?
Agreed, it would be nice to avoid SIGTRAP's. Although right now it is
not clear to me how we can do this. The problematic case is the
single-stepping, afaics. Say, int3. Even if the task is ptraced, we
can't know why do we hit this insn. It is possible that this task
auto-debugs itself and thus we should send SIGTRAP. Even the
X86_EFLAGS_TF case is not that simple although we can probably take
TIF_SINGLESTEP into account. But again, the task can set X86_EFLAGS_TF
itself.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-26 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-16 18:17 [PATCHSET ptrace] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT and group stop notification, take#2 Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 01/10] signal: remove three noop tracehooks Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-17 16:27 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 18:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 12:11 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 02/10] job control: introduce JOBCTL_TRAP_STOP and use it for group stop trap Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-18 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 10:19 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 03/10] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 0:40 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-18 9:55 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 10:44 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-18 11:14 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 14:17 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 15:02 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 19:31 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-19 22:42 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-19 23:00 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-20 1:44 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-20 8:56 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-20 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-20 9:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-20 9:27 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-20 9:31 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-24 9:49 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-24 12:00 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-24 12:36 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-24 14:02 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-24 14:55 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-25 18:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 9:10 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-26 10:01 ` Pedro Alves
2011-05-26 10:11 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-26 14:55 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-05-23 13:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-23 12:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-24 10:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-25 18:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-26 9:14 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-26 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-27 18:21 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-30 19:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <BANLkTimupSd774N-VBoswOj+Dza=5ofvWQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-31 19:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-31 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-01 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-01 5:34 ` Tejun Heo
2011-06-01 20:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-02 5:01 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 18:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 10:34 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 04/10] ptrace: implement PTRACE_INTERRUPT Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 18:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 12:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 05/10] ptrace: restructure ptrace_getsiginfo() Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 06/10] ptrace: add siginfo.si_pt_flags Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 07/10] ptrace: make group stop state visible via PTRACE_GETSIGINFO Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 16:40 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 08/10] ptrace: don't let PTRACE_SETSIGINFO override __SI_TRAP siginfo Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 09/10] ptrace: add JOBCTL_BLOCK_NOTIFY Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 16:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 16:58 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-16 18:17 ` [PATCH 10/10] ptrace: implement group stop notification for ptracer Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 22:48 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-05-20 8:59 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-23 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-20 8:46 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-23 11:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-24 13:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-24 15:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-26 14:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-28 7:32 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-18 18:50 ` [PATCHSET ptrace] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE/INTERRUPT and group stop notification, take#2 Oleg Nesterov
2011-05-19 12:08 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 15:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-19 15:19 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-19 22:45 ` Denys Vlasenko
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