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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andreas Bombe <aeb@debian.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: tty_lock held during transmit wait in close: still unresolved
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:38:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105271338.54713.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110527004104.GB4369@amos.fritz.box>

On Friday 27 May 2011, Andreas Bombe wrote:
> > At any point you can show the code sleeps you can drop and retake the
> > tty mutex either side of it, so you should be able to do that in the
> > close timeout case. You may need to think about the order of locking with
> > the port mutex but I suspect you can drop and retake both there.
> 
> …basically emulating the BKL semantics? Sounds more doable. I'll look
> into it.

If I understand it correctly, the problem is the msleep_interruptible()
in __uart_wait_until_sent(), right?

Note that this function may be called with or without the port mutex
held, depending on whether the caller is uart_close or uart_wait_until_sent.
The tricky part here will be making sure that you hold neither the
port mutex nor the tty_mutex while sleeping, and to always retake them
in the correct order (tty_mutex before port mutex).

My mistake here must have been that I assumed the timeout was relatively
short to not hurt when holding a mutex, since we already hold the port
mutex. I expected the wait time to be a fraction of a second as in the time
that it takes to send a few remaining characters, which would be acceptable,
unlike the 30 second sleep that you are seeing.

> Of course that means it has to be done individually in all drivers.

Right. Fortunately, we have now reduced the number of drivers a bit, by
moving some of them to staging or completely out of the kernel.

Some drivers call their wait_until_sent function directly from their
close function, some call it through tty_wait_until_sent, and some
actually do both.

Further, some of the drivers have a rather ugly part in them where we take
tty_lock() conditionally in wait_until_sent(), depending on whether the
current thread already holds it (i.e. when coming from ->close, not when
coming from ioctl).

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-27 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-25 23:59 tty_lock held during transmit wait in close: still unresolved Andreas Bombe
2011-05-26  7:11 ` Greg KH
2011-05-27  0:29   ` Andreas Bombe
2011-05-26  8:17 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-27  0:41   ` Andreas Bombe
2011-05-27 11:38     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-05-27 12:11     ` Jiri Slaby
2011-05-27 13:53       ` Arnd Bergmann

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