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From: Hu Tao <hutao@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.co>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/15] CFS Bandwidth Control V6
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:05:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110617060533.GA2746@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DFAAC6B.6060306@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:22:51AM +0900, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
> (2011/06/16 18:45), Hu Tao wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:57:09AM +0900, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
> >> (2011/06/15 17:37), Hu Tao wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:29:49PM +0900, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
> >>>> (2011/06/14 15:58), Hu Tao wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've run several tests including hackbench, unixbench, massive-intr
> >>>>> and kernel building. CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3430  @ 2.40GHz,
> >>>>> 4 cores, and 4G memory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Most of the time the results differ few, but there are problems:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. unixbench: execl throughout has about 5% drop.
> >>>>> 2. unixbench: process creation has about 5% drop.
> >>>>> 3. massive-intr: when running 200 processes for 5mins, the number
> >>>>>    of loops each process runs differ more than before cfs-bandwidth-v6.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The results are attached.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know the score of unixbench is not so stable that the problem might
> >>>> be noises ... but the result of massive-intr is interesting.
> >>>> Could you give a try to find which piece (xx/15) in the series cause
> >>>> the problems?
> >>>
> >>> After more tests, I found massive-intr data is not stable, too. Results
> >>> are attached. The third number in file name means which patchs are
> >>> applied, 0 means no patch applied. plot.sh is easy to generate png
> >>> files.
> >>
> >> (Though I don't know what the 16th patch of this series is, anyway)
> 
> I see.  It will be replaced by Paul's update.
> 
> > the 16th patch is this: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/23/503
> > 
> >> I see that the results of 15, 15-1 and 15-2 are very different and that
> >> 15-2 is similar to without-patch.
> >>
> >> One concern is whether this unstable of data is really caused by the
> >> nature of your test (hardware, massive-intr itself and something running
> >> in background etc.) or by a hidden piece in the bandwidth patch set.
> >> Did you see "not stable" data when none of patches is applied?
> > 
> > Yes. 
> > 
> > But for a five-runs the result seems 'stable'(before patches and after
> > patches). I've also run the tests in single mode. results are attached.
> 
> (It will be appreciated greatly if you could provide not only raw results
> but also your current observation/speculation.)

Sorry I didn't make me clear.

> 
> Well, (to wrap it up,) do you still see the following problem?
> 
> >>>>> 3. massive-intr: when running 200 processes for 5mins, the number
> >>>>>    of loops each process runs differ more than before cfs-bandwidth-v6.

Even when before applying the patches, the numbers differ much between
several runs of massive_intr, this is the reason I say the data is not
stable. But treating the results of five runs as a whole, it shows some
stability. The results after the patches are similar, and the average
loops differ little comparing to the results before the patches(compare
0-1.png and 16-1.png in my last mail). so I would say the patches don't
bring too much impact on interactive processes.

> 
> I think that 5 samples are not enough to draw a conclusion, and that at the
> moment it is inconsiderable.  How do you think?

At least 5 samples reveal something, but if you'd like I can take more
samples.

> 
> Even though pointed problems are gone, I have to say thank you for taking
> your time to test this CFS bandwidth patch set.
> I'd appreciate it if you could continue your test, possibly against V7.
> (I'm waiting, Paul?)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> H.Seto

Thanks,
-- 
Hu Tao

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-17  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-03  9:28 [patch 00/15] CFS Bandwidth Control V6 Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 01/15] sched: (fixlet) dont update shares twice on on_rq parent Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:14   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-10  8:32     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-11  7:55       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  8:13         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-11  8:45           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-11  8:59             ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 02/15] sched: hierarchical task accounting for SCHED_OTHER Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:17   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 03/15] sched: introduce primitives to account for CFS bandwidth tracking Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:18   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 04/15] sched: validate CFS quota hierarchies Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:20   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:37     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16  9:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16  9:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:32     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-17 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:16         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-18 11:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 05/15] sched: add a timer to handle CFS bandwidth refresh Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:21   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:27     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:56     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 06/15] sched: accumulate per-cfs_rq cpu usage and charge against bandwidth Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:22   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:25     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:59     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-17 15:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:02         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 07/15] sched: expire invalid runtime Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:22   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-16 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 08/15] sched: throttle cfs_rq entities which exceed their local runtime Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:23   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-16 15:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 16:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 09/15] sched: unthrottle cfs_rq(s) who ran out of quota at period refresh Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:24   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:24     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 10/15] sched: allow for positional tg_tree walks Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:24   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-17 13:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:18     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 11/15] sched: prevent interactions between throttled entities and load-balance Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:26   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:11     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 12/15] sched: migrate throttled tasks on HOTPLUG Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:27   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:10     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 13/15] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:27   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  7:56   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:09     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:29 ` [patch 14/15] sched: return unused runtime on voluntary sleep Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:28   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:29 ` [patch 15/15] sched: add documentation for bandwidth control Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:29   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:09     ` Paul Turner
2011-06-07 15:45 ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinned Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-08  3:09   ` Paul Turner
2011-06-08 10:46   ` Vladimir Davydov
2011-06-08 16:32     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-09  3:25       ` Paul Turner
2011-06-10 18:17         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-14  0:00           ` Paul Turner
2011-06-15  5:37             ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-21 19:48               ` Paul Turner
2011-06-24 15:05                 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-07 11:00                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 14:54                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 15:20                 ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinnede Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 19:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-08 15:15                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-09 12:31                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-09 13:26                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-12 10:17                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-12 12:35                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13  4:15                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  5:03                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  5:05                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  9:39                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 11:28                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 14:07                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 16:21                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 16:33                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 17:41                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 16:36                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 17:54                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:03                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:12                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:07                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:19                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:28                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:30                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:35                                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-15 17:55                                                     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-15 21:48                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 17:51                                                         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-20  0:38                                                           ` Venki Pallipadi
2011-09-20 11:09                                                             ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-20 13:56                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 14:04                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:55                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-21 17:34                                                         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-13 14:19                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:01                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:23                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-16  8:14                                     ` Paul Turner
2011-09-16  8:28                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:35                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-16  8:22                   ` Paul Turner
2011-06-14 10:16   ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinned Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-14  6:58 ` [patch 00/15] CFS Bandwidth Control V6 Hu Tao
2011-06-14  7:29   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-14  7:44     ` Hu Tao
2011-06-15  8:37     ` Hu Tao
2011-06-16  0:57       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-16  9:45         ` Hu Tao
2011-06-17  1:22           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-17  6:05             ` Hu Tao [this message]
2011-06-17  6:25             ` Paul Turner
2011-06-17  9:13               ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-18  0:28                 ` Paul Turner

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