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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"acme@ghostprotocols.net" <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] perf: add context field to perf_event
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:34:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110705143453.GA9089@somewhere.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110705143026.GF6345@e102144-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:30:26PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Frederic,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 02:58:24PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 05:27:25PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > Hi Frederic,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for including me on CC.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 05:08:45PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 06:42:35PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > > > The perf_event overflow handler does not receive any caller-derived
> > > > > argument, so many callers need to resort to looking up the perf_event
> > > > > in their local data structure.  This is ugly and doesn't scale if a
> > > > > single callback services many perf_events.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fix by adding a context parameter to perf_event_create_kernel_counter()
> > > > > (and derived hardware breakpoints APIs) and storing it in the perf_event.
> > > > > The field can be accessed from the callback as event->overflow_handler_context.
> > > > > All callers are updated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > I believe it can micro-optimize ptrace through register_user_hw_breakpoint() because
> > > > we could store the index of the breakpoint that way, instead of iterating through 4 slots.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps it can help in arm too, adding Will in Cc.
> > > 
> > > Yes, we could store the breakpoint index in there and it would save us
> > > walking over the breakpoints when one fires. Not sure this helps us for
> > > anything else though. My main gripe with the ptrace interface to
> > > hw_breakpoints is that we have to convert all the breakpoint information
> > > from ARM_BREAKPOINT_* to HW_BREAKPOINT_* and then convert it all back again
> > > in the hw_breakpoint code. Yuck!
> > 
> > Agreed, I don't like that either.
> > 
> > Would you like to improve that? We probably need to be able to pass some arch data
> > through the whole call of breakpoint creation, including perf_event_create_kernel_counter().
> 
> Sure, I'll make some time to look at this and try and get an RFC out in the
> next few weeks.

Great! Thanks a lot!

> 
> > There can be a transition step where we can either take generic attr or arch datas, until
> > every archs are converted. So that you can handle the arm part and other arch developers
> > can relay.
> 
> Yup.
> 
> > 
> > Another thing I would like to do in the even longer term is to not use perf anymore
> > for ptrace breakpoints, because that involves a heavy dependency and few people are
> > happy with that. Instead we should just have a generic hook into the sched_switch()
> > and handle pure ptrace breakpoints there. The central breakpoint API would still be
> > there to reserve/schedule breakpoint resources between ptrace and perf.
> > 
> > But beeing able to create ptrace breakpoints without converting to generic perf attr
> > is a necessary first step in order to achieve this.
> 
> Agreed, but I'll bear that in mind so I don't make it any more difficult
> than it already is!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Will

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-05 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-29 15:42 [PATCH 0/3] Preparatory perf patches for KVM PMU support Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: add context field to perf_event Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 16:08   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-06-29 16:25     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 16:27     ` Will Deacon
2011-07-04 13:58       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-07-04 14:10         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-04 14:36           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-07-11 21:07             ` Will Deacon
2011-07-12  7:20               ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  8:38                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-12  9:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  9:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-12  9:16                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  9:18                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-12  9:27                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  9:31                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-12  9:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  9:42                                 ` Will Deacon
2011-07-12  9:41                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-12  9:44                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12  9:48                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-12  9:55                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12 10:03                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-12 10:07                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-12 10:24                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-12 10:36                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 15:32                               ` Will Deacon
2011-07-21 15:36                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 15:46                                   ` Will Deacon
2011-07-21 15:59                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 16:37                                       ` Will Deacon
2011-07-05 14:30         ` Will Deacon
2011-07-05 14:34           ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-07-01 15:24   ` [tip:perf/core] perf: Add " tip-bot for Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 15:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86, perf: add constraints for architectural PMU v1 Avi Kivity
2011-07-01 15:24   ` [tip:perf/core] x86, perf: Add constraints for architectural PMU tip-bot for Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 15:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf: export perf_event_refresh() to modules Avi Kivity
2011-07-01 15:25   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Avi Kivity

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