From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca, josh@joshtriplett.org,
niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com, patches@linaro.org,
edward.tomlinson@aero.bombardier.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu/urgent 0/6] Fixes for RCU/scheduler/irq-threads trainwreck
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:29:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110720192949.GM2313@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyuKTj3zEvWJEx4_RDzLQ+ipJ58UWFYH84nmcwGF_c4aA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:02:47PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >> 6 files changed, 105 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> looks very scary to me.
> >
> > A lot of that is also relevant to !BOOST.
>
> Can we limit this somehow? Or split it up? Which part of this is "fix
> new BOOST features, not ever even executed without BOOST", and which
> part of this is "fixes core stuff"?
#2 (Fix RCU_BOOST race handling current->rcu_read_unlock_special) and
#7 (align __lock_task_sighand() irq disabling and RCU) are needed only
for RCU_BOOST. The rest fix problems that can occur even with !RCU_BOOST.
I believe that #4 (protect __rcu_read_unlock() against scheduler-using
irq handlers) turns #1 (decrease rcu_report_exp_rnp coupling with scheduler)
into a longer-term maintenance issue rather than an urgent fix.
> I *really* hate the timing of this. The code that is only impacted by
> BOOST I cannot find it in myself to care about, and I'd be willing to
> consider it basically EXPERIMENTAL and just pulling it.
I can only say that I completely failed in my goal of making my code
go in without a ripple. :-(
> IOW, is the core non-boost fix just a few obvious oneliners?
>
> The "it all broke completely" in previous version of this also doesn't
> make me get all the warm fuzzies. Which all makes me go "what is
> minimal and really really SAFE?"
Peter, does #4 (protect __rcu_read_unlock() against scheduler-using
irq handlers) remove the need for #5 (Add irq_{enter,exit}() to
scheduler_ipi()) and #6 (Inform RCU of irq_exit() activity)? My guess is
"no" for #5 and "yes" for #6.
If my guess is correct, then the minimal non-RCU_BOOST fix is #4 (which
drags along #3) and #6. Which are not one-liners, but somewhat smaller:
b/kernel/rcutree_plugin.h | 12 ++++++------
b/kernel/softirq.c | 12 ++++++++++--
kernel/rcutree_plugin.h | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++------
3 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
How would you like to proceed?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-20 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-20 0:17 [PATCH rcu/urgent 0/6] Fixes for RCU/scheduler/irq-threads trainwreck Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 1/7] rcu: decrease rcu_report_exp_rnp coupling with scheduler Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 2:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 4:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 11:23 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 11:31 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 13:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 2/7] rcu: Fix RCU_BOOST race handling current->rcu_read_unlock_special Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 3/7] rcu: Streamline code produced by __rcu_read_unlock() Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 4/7] rcu: protect __rcu_read_unlock() against scheduler-using irq handlers Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 13:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 5/7] sched: Add irq_{enter,exit}() to scheduler_ipi() Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 6/7] softirq,rcu: Inform RCU of irq_exit() activity Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 0:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 7/7] signal: align __lock_task_sighand() irq disabling and RCU Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 1:10 ` [PATCH rcu/urgent 0/6] Fixes for RCU/scheduler/irq-threads trainwreck Ben Greear
2011-07-20 1:30 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 2:07 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 4:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 5:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-20 13:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 17:02 ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-20 18:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 19:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 19:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 20:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-20 19:29 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-07-20 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-20 19:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-20 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 20:54 ` Ben Greear
2011-07-20 21:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-21 3:25 ` Ben Greear
2011-07-21 16:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 21:04 ` [GIT PULL] RCU fixes for v3.0 Ingo Molnar
2011-07-20 21:55 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 22:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 20:08 ` [PATCH rcu/urgent 0/6] Fixes for RCU/scheduler/irq-threads trainwreck Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 21:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 21:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 10:49 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-07-20 18:25 ` [PATCH rcu/urgent 0/7 v2] " Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 1/7] rcu: decrease rcu_report_exp_rnp coupling with scheduler Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 2/7] rcu: Fix RCU_BOOST race handling current->rcu_read_unlock_special Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 3/7] rcu: Streamline code produced by __rcu_read_unlock() Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-21 5:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 4/7] rcu: protect __rcu_read_unlock() against scheduler-using irq handlers Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 5/7] sched: Add irq_{enter,exit}() to scheduler_ipi() Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 6/7] softirq,rcu: Inform RCU of irq_exit() activity Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-20 18:26 ` [PATCH tip/core/urgent 7/7] signal: align __lock_task_sighand() irq disabling and RCU Paul E. McKenney
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