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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Przywara, Andre" <Andre.Przywara@amd.com>,
	"Pohlack, Martin" <Martin.Pohlack@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, AMD: Correct F15h IC aliasing issue
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:07:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110724190752.GA13647@aftab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110724183045.GB29660@elte.hu>

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 02:30:46PM -0400, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > So I really think that you might be *much* better off just changing
> > > mmap_rnd(), and nothing else. Just make *that* mask off the three low
> > > bits of the random address, ie something like
> > > 
> > >   diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
> > >   index 1dab5194fd9d..6b62ab5a5ae1 100644
> > >   --- a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
> > >   +++ b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
> > >   @@ -90,6 +90,9 @@ static unsigned long mmap_rnd(void)
> > >                           rnd = (long)get_random_int() % (1<<8);
> > >                   else
> > >                           rnd = (long)(get_random_int() % (1<<28));
> > >   +
> > >   +               if (avoid_aliasing_in_bits_14_12)
> > >   +                       rnd &= ~7;
> > >           }
> > >           return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
> > >    }
> > > 
> > > would be fundamentally very safe - it would already take all our
> > > current anti-randomization code into account.
> > > 
> > > No?
> > 
> > Hehe, we had that idea initially. However, the special 1% case I was
> > hinting at is this:
> > 
> > process P0, mapping libraries A, B, C
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > process P1, mapping libraries A, C
> > 
> > Library C ends up possibly with aliasing VAs and there's the 
> > problem again. [...]
> 
> Well, since all library positions are randomized, and the quirk masks 
> out bits 12,13,14, all libraries that are not explicitly fix-mapped 
> will end up on a 32K granular VA address.

Right, but IIUC, mmap_rnd() is used to determine mm->mmap_base so the
mmap starting address will have [14:12] cleared but the initial address
of library C's mapping in the example above will possibly differ in
those bits due to different linking order, right?

> Also, in practice on most distros most libraries will be prelinked to
> the same address in all processes.

I think at least on RHEL there's a daemon doing prelinking every two
weeks or so...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-24 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-22 13:15 [PATCH] x86, AMD: Correct F15h IC aliasing issue Borislav Petkov
2011-07-24 11:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-24 13:40   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-24 13:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-24 16:16     ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-26 18:33     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-24 16:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-24 17:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-24 17:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-24 18:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-24 18:23       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-24 18:30         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-24 19:07           ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2011-07-24 20:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 20:00               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-25 20:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 21:53                   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26  5:58                     ` Ray Lee
2011-07-26 17:28                       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26 18:34                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-26 18:39                           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26 18:47                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-26 19:33                               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-27 17:10       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-27 17:16         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-28 13:44           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-28 14:02             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-28 14:13               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-28 14:18                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-28 14:35                   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26 17:59 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-26 18:13   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26 18:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-26 18:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-26 18:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-26 19:42           ` Andre Przywara
2011-07-26 22:34             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-27  4:14             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-27  6:21               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-27  6:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-27  9:30                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-27 15:37                     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-27 15:45                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-27 15:49                         ` Borislav Petkov
2011-07-27 15:57                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-27 16:42                             ` Borislav Petkov

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