From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: 3.0-git15 Atomic scheduling in pidmap_init
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:26:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110805222641.GB2245@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110805170805.GB22164@somewhere>
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:08PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 10:22:45AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:56:46PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > I could be missing something obvious, but I don't see a way to avoid
> > > > > using GFP_KERNEL without a lot of rip-up in the rest of the init path.
> > > >
> > > > As an aside, I bisected this back to:
> > > >
> > > > e8f7c70f44f sched: Make sleeping inside spinlock detection working in
> > > > !CONFIG_PREEMPT
> > >
> > > OK, added Frederic on CC.
> > >
> > > > However, that doesn't seem all that helpful. The
> > > > CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP option later got renamed to
> > > > DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP, and all it's doing is selecting PREEMPT_COUNT. At
> > > > first glance, it seems this commit just allowed an issue that's been
> > > > around for a while (benign or otherwise) to finally show up.
> > > >
> > > > (The Fedora kernel configs have CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY set, but not
> > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT so PREEMPT_COUNT wasn't getting selected until this
> > > > option did so.)
> > >
> > > Understood. So my question is "what is the real way to fix this?"
> > > Within RCU, I would probably wrapper the calls to set_need_resched()
> > > so that it checks for the scheduler being fully alive. Except for the
> > > call from rcu_enter_nohz(), of course -- if that one is called before
> > > the scheduler is ready, then that is a bug that needs to be fixed.
> >
> > By scheduler being fully alive, do you mean when rcu_scheduler_starting
> > is called? Or do you mean the actual scheduler, because sched_init is
> > called well before any of this happens.
> >
> > > Nevertheless, I am wondering if all of this isn't really papering over
> > > some real problem somewhere. The way we get to this place is from people
> > > registering RCU callbacks during early boot, which is OK in and of itself,
> > > at least in moderation. But if someone is expecting those callbacks to be
> > > invoked before the scheduler is fully set up and running multiple tasks,
> > > they are going to be disappointed.
> >
> > Is there a way to dump what callbacks have been registered? As far as I
> > can see, we call rcu_check_callbacks unconditionally when a timer
> > interrupt is taken and that calls rcu_pending unconditionally as well.
> > Before that, rcu_init is called which eventually sets up the per-cpu
> > data via rcu_init_percpu_data and that sets rdp->qs_pending = 1.
> > Until a quiescent state is reached __rcu_pending is going to try and
> > force it, which is where the set_need_resched is called.
> >
> > Basically, I took what you said about wrapping set_need_resched and came
> > up with the patch below. It gets rid of the oops from pidmap_init, but
> > I need to test it a bit more. Would be happy to have feedback.
> >
> > josh
> >
> > ---
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcutree.c b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > index ba06207..8c6cb6e 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcutree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > @@ -1681,8 +1681,14 @@ static int __rcu_pending(struct rcu_state *rsp, struct rcu_data *rdp)
> > rdp->n_rp_qs_pending++;
> > if (!rdp->preemptible &&
> > ULONG_CMP_LT(ACCESS_ONCE(rsp->jiffies_force_qs) - 1,
> > - jiffies))
> > - set_need_resched();
> > + jiffies)) {
> > + /* Make sure we're ready to mark the task as needing
> > + * rescheduling otherwise we can trigger oopes early
> > + * in the init path
> > + */
> > + if (rcu_scheduler_active)
> > + set_need_resched();
>
> What about we avoid setting rdp->qs_pending = 1 for the CPU
> that handles the boot?
That sounds promising -- only checked at the beginning of a grace period,
so not too much overhead. In contrast, __rcu_pending() is called
multiple times per transition to dyntick-idle state.
I will take a look at this.
Thanx, Paul
> > + }
> > } else if (rdp->qs_pending && rdp->passed_quiesc) {
> > rdp->n_rp_report_qs++;
> > return 1;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-05 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-01 15:46 3.0-git15 Atomic scheduling in pidmap_init Josh Boyer
2011-08-04 11:46 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-04 14:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-04 15:06 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-04 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-04 17:31 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-05 1:19 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-05 6:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-05 14:22 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-05 17:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-05 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-08-05 23:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-08 2:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-08 2:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-08 3:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-09 11:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-10 12:45 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-10 14:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-10 15:03 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-14 23:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-15 14:04 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-15 15:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-17 22:37 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-17 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-17 23:02 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-17 23:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-17 23:17 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-18 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-18 19:11 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-18 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-18 21:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-18 21:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-18 22:21 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-18 23:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-24 22:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-24 23:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-24 23:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-24 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-18 22:19 ` Josh Boyer
2011-08-18 23:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-18 23:27 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-19 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
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