From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Having perf use libparsevent.a
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:56:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110806145655.GB29058@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110806064847.GB13220@elte.hu>
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 08:48:47AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:24:09PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > By keeping the code separate from perf, made the transition from
> > > > trace-cmd to tools much easier. I've wasted too many days trying to
> > > > get other ways working, and I don't want to rewrite perf to do so.
> > >
> > > But we want to move tools together, not further apart. Every code
> > > activity i see from you is trying to tear apart instrumentation
> > > tooling - while previously you agreed that it should be unified. So
> > > why not do tools/perf/lib/ as you agreed before?
> > >
> > > I'm really not interested in seeing the libdrm/libdri mess repeated.
> > > Libraries have their uses when there's some very important external
> > > interface, but here it's actively harmful as it complicates and
> > > hardcodes APIs into ABIs that are clearly not finished yet.
> > >
> > > Really, lets not be stupid here.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ingo
> >
> > The trace events format is a general interface that not only perf
> > and trace-cmd use but also powertop and pytimechart, and may be
> > others?
> >
> > And given the breakage we had with powertop, for example, that
> > broke because it was relying on an ad-hoc static layout of the
> > trace event, or pytimechart that relies(ed?) on the event string
> > output, I think that library is needed outside perf.
>
> That is why i suggested libperf.so - this will handle the cases you
> mention, plus any future case - while still allow more flexible code
> sharing between libperf and the perf tools themselves.
But what would you want inside libperf.o, further the trace event
library?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-06 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-05 20:59 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Having perf use libparsevent.a Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] perf: Separate out trace-cmd parse-events from perf files Steven Rostedt
2011-08-15 16:14 ` David Ahern
2011-08-15 16:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-17 0:08 ` David Ahern
2011-08-17 0:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-18 13:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-18 16:37 ` David Ahern
2011-08-18 16:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] tools/events: Add files to create libparsevent.a Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] perf: Build libparsevent.a Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] events: Update tools/lib/events to work with perf Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] perf: Have perf use the new libparsevent.a library Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] perf/events: Add flag to produce nsec output Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] perf/events: Add flag/symbol format_flags Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 20:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] perf/events: Correct size given to memset Steven Rostedt
2011-08-05 21:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8] Having perf use libparsevent.a Ingo Molnar
2011-08-06 0:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-06 6:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-08-06 14:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
[not found] ` <CAKYOsXw+Q+h2D++LxAoCUJ3tFVEhczBgDWNjwXzuJ0mNDav_Rw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-06 15:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-06 15:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-06 1:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-06 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-08-08 21:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-06 9:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-06 0:07 ` David Ahern
2011-08-06 1:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-06 15:23 ` Colin Walters
[not found] <CAGZ=bq+mJ-9pf0Y22b9LLey0Em2Y7SAA5FnQ5cPsde6GB_aqgw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-06 21:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-08-06 23:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-08-08 9:34 ` Américo Wang
2011-08-08 13:42 ` Steven Rostedt
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