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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: david@lang.hm, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable-review@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, stable@kernel.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:56:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110816025625.GA6511@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1313461616.2981.92.camel@deadeye>

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 03:26:56AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 07:21 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:21:59AM -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
> > > rather than having a hard schedule (the first kernel released after
> > > July 1 each year for example I know this is not the exact proposal),
> > > I think that it would be better to pick the -longterm kernel a few
> > > months after it has been released (3.4 is looking very good, the
> > > normal minor driver fixes in -stable, but no fundamental regressions
> > > have been reported, it's the new -longerm kernel for example)
> > > 
> > > doing so doesn't give the predictability that some people will want
> > > in knowing that their September release will always have a fresh new
> > > -longerm kernel, but I think the result would be better -longterm
> > > kernels. However, to get the information about how good the kernels
> > > are, I think that the -stable timeframe would need to be extended to
> > > give the kernels time to settle and gather reports. I would then
> > > suggest scheduling that once a year you look at the last couple
> > > -stable kernels and pick one of them rather than designating the new
> > > -longterm kernel ahead of time.
> > 
> > Yes, that's a very good idea.  I've seen problems in the past when
> > distros have made a time-based decision to pick a kernel version and
> > then the problems that this can cause if it happens that a subsystem
> > really had issues for that release.
> > 
> > So yes, I'll take a look at the bug reports and how things are working
> > out to pick the next -longterm.  I'll also take into consideration any
> > companies/major users that are going to be using that release as well,
> > so it greatly behooves people to talk to me about their plans (hint,
> > hint...)
> [...]
> 
> This might be a good discussion to have at Kernel Summit, if enough
> distro people are going to be there.

I doubt the proper distro people will be at the Kernel Summit, sorry.
Perhaps at Plumbers or at LinuxCon Europe?

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-16  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-15  4:15 Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them) Greg KH
2011-08-15  6:48 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2011-08-15  7:06   ` david
2011-08-15  7:16     ` Teck Choon Giam
2011-08-15  7:25       ` david
2011-08-15  7:38         ` Teck Choon Giam
2011-08-15  7:57         ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2011-08-17 11:07       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2011-08-15  7:19   ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2011-08-15  7:21 ` david
2011-08-15 14:21   ` Greg KH
2011-08-16  2:26     ` [Stable-review] " Ben Hutchings
2011-08-16  2:56       ` Greg KH [this message]
2011-08-16  3:31         ` [stable] " Ben Hutchings
2011-08-16  5:26     ` Daniel Taylor
2011-08-24 23:57       ` Greg KH
2011-08-15  7:33 ` [Stable-review] " Willy Tarreau
2011-08-15 14:18   ` [stable] " Greg KH
2011-08-15 15:04 ` [stable] " Tim Gardner
2011-08-16  2:09 ` [Stable-review] " Ben Hutchings
2011-08-16  2:57   ` [stable] " Greg KH
2011-08-16 19:26   ` Jeremiah C. Foster
2011-08-16 22:33     ` [stable] " Greg KH
2011-08-17 10:33       ` Jeremiah Foster
2011-08-17 20:20         ` david
2011-08-24  4:47           ` Greg KH
2011-08-24  4:46         ` Greg KH
2011-08-24 13:03           ` Jeremiah Foster
2011-08-16 23:01 ` Tim Bird
2011-08-17  4:58   ` Greg KH
2011-08-17 13:21     ` Mark Brown
2011-08-17 17:33       ` Brian Swetland
2011-08-24  4:57         ` Greg KH
2011-08-25  4:49           ` Brian Swetland
2011-08-26  0:03             ` Greg KH
2011-08-18  0:33     ` [Stable-review] " Ben Hutchings
2011-08-18 11:28       ` Pasi Kärkkäinen

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