public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] prctl: add PR_{SET,GET}_CHILD_REAPER to allow simple process supervision
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:10:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110816131010.7a6e9a99.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311897706.16657.2.camel@mop>

On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:01:44 +0200
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:

> From: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
> Subject: prctl: add PR_{SET,GET}_CHILD_REAPER to allow simple process supervision
> 
> Userspace service managers/supervisors need to track their started
> services. Many services daemonize by double-forking and get implicitely
> re-parented to PID 1. The process manager will no longer be able to
> receive the SIGCHLD signals for them.
> 
> With this prctl, a service manager can mark itself as a sort of
> 'sub-init' process, able to stay as the parent process for all processes
> created by the started services. All SIGCHLD signals will be delivered
> to the service manager.
> 
> As a side effect, the relevant parent PID information does not get lost
> by a double-fork, which results in a more elaborate process tree and 'ps'
> output.
> 
> This is orthogonal to PID namespaces. PID namespaces are isolated
> from each other, while a service management process usually requires
> the serices to live in the same namespace, to be able to talk to each
> other.
> 
> Users of this will be the systemd per-user instance, which provides
> init-like functionality for the user's login session and D-Bus, which
> activates bus services on on-demand. Both will need init-like capabilities
> to be able to properly keep track of the services they start.
> 

Interesting patch.  I can't immediately see any nasty effects from it..

Did you consider using the existing taskstats capability for this?

The comment block over find_new_reaper() is now incomplete.  Please
update it?

prctl(2) has a manpage.  What's the plan for updating it?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-16 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-29  0:01 [PATCH] prctl: add PR_{SET,GET}_CHILD_REAPER to allow simple process supervision Kay Sievers
2011-08-16 13:43 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-16 20:10 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-08-17  0:32   ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17  0:45     ` Andrew Morton

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110816131010.7a6e9a99.akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --to=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=kay.sievers@vrfy.org \
    --cc=lennart@poettering.net \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox