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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
	kay.sievers@vrfy.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	roland@hack.frob.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:55:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110817115543.GA8745@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201108162011.p7GKBcY0023134@imap1.linux-foundation.org>

On 08/16, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> From: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
>
> Userspace service managers/supervisors need to track their started
> services.  Many services daemonize by double-forking and get implicitely
> re-parented to PID 1.  The process manager will no longer be able to
> receive the SIGCHLD signals for them.
>
> With this prctl, a service manager can mark itself as a sort of 'sub-init'
> process, able to stay as the parent process for all processes created by
> the started services.  All SIGCHLD signals will be delivered to the
> service manager.

I try to never argue with the new features. But to be honest, this
doesn't look very good to me.

OK, a service manager M does prctl(PR_SET_CHILD_REAPER), then it forks
a service X which forks another child C and exits. Then C exits and
notifies M.

But. How can M know that the service X should be restarted? It only
knows the pid. What if wait(WEXITED) succeeds because C in turn does
fork + exit? What M has 2 or more services?




Anyway, the implementation is certainly buggy.

> @@ -1296,6 +1296,8 @@ struct task_struct {
>  				 * execve */
>  	unsigned in_iowait:1;
>
> +	/* Reparent child processes to this process instead of pid 1. */
> +	unsigned child_reaper:1;

First of all - this is already very wrong imho. This should be
per-process, not per-thread.

> +	/* find the first ancestor which is marked as child_reaper */
> +	for (reaper = father->parent;
> +	     reaper != &init_task && reaper != pid_ns->child_reaper;
> +	     reaper = reaper->parent)

This loop can never reach init_task/child_reaper and crash the kernel.
For example, father->parent can point to init_task's sub-thread.

OTOH you shouldn't use init_task at all.

Also. You shouldn't do this if the sub-namespace init exits, this is
wrong.

> +		if (reaper->child_reaper)
> +			return reaper;

No, we can't blindly return this task, it can be dead/exiting. More
precisely, we must not do this if it has already passed
forget_original_parent(). That is why the code above checks PF_EXITING.

Oleg.


       reply	other threads:[~2011-08-17 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201108162011.p7GKBcY0023134@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2011-08-17 11:55 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-08-17 13:05   ` + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 13:21     ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 13:37       ` Alan Cox
2011-08-23  0:30         ` Colin Walters
2011-08-17 14:16       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:03       ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17 13:13   ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 13:45     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 15:45       ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 15:53         ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 16:20         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:47           ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 18:57             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 20:56               ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 12:43       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-08-18 14:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 18:11           ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 18:48             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19  1:31               ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 12:25                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 12:44                   ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 13:13                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 14:20                       ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 14:58                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-20 15:33                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-21 18:33                             ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-22 11:14                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 23:48                                 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 21:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-18 21:55               ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 22:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-19  0:48                   ` Kay Sievers

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