From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
kay.sievers@vrfy.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
roland@hack.frob.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:05:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110817130531.GA12204@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110817115543.GA8745@redhat.com>
On 08/17, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 08/16, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > From: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
> >
> > Userspace service managers/supervisors need to track their started
> > services. Many services daemonize by double-forking and get implicitely
> > re-parented to PID 1. The process manager will no longer be able to
> > receive the SIGCHLD signals for them.
> >
> > With this prctl, a service manager can mark itself as a sort of 'sub-init'
> > process, able to stay as the parent process for all processes created by
> > the started services. All SIGCHLD signals will be delivered to the
> > service manager.
>
> I try to never argue with the new features. But to be honest, this
> doesn't look very good to me.
>
> OK, a service manager M does prctl(PR_SET_CHILD_REAPER), then it forks
> a service X which forks another child C and exits. Then C exits and
> notifies M.
>
> But. How can M know that the service X should be restarted? It only
> knows the pid. What if wait(WEXITED) succeeds because C in turn does
> fork + exit? What M has 2 or more services?
Also. I am almost sure I have already reviewed a very similar patch
a long ago. Ungortunately, I can't find the previous discussion, and
I can't recall why that patch was not accepted.
But, I seem to remember, that patch cleared ->child_reaper on exec,
I think this makes sense.
And I am not sure about security. No, I do not see any problems, just
I don't know. Say, should we check the creds during reparenting? I
dunno.
Oleg.
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2011-08-17 11:55 ` + prctl-add-pr_setget_child_reaper-to-allow-simple-process-supervision .patch added to -mm tree Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 13:05 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-08-17 13:21 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 13:37 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-23 0:30 ` Colin Walters
2011-08-17 14:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-08-17 13:13 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 13:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 15:45 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-17 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 16:47 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-17 20:56 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 12:43 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-18 18:11 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 18:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 1:31 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 12:44 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 13:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-19 14:20 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-19 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-20 15:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-21 18:33 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-22 11:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 23:48 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-18 21:55 ` Kay Sievers
2011-08-18 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-19 0:48 ` Kay Sievers
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