From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Send a SIGCHLD to the init's pid namespace parent when reboot
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:33:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110823133302.GA19582@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110822211716.7c141d5c@neptune.home>
On 08/22, Bruno Prémont wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 August 2011 Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/22, Bruno Prémont wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't it possible to add the two cases to si_code possible values, e.g.
> > > CDL_RESTART, CDL_HALT (or CDL_SYS_RESTART, CDL_SYS_HALT
> >
> > How? You should change do_wait() paths then. Even if we could, personally
> > I'd strongly object ;) Look, you have the very specific problem. The kernel
> > can't do everything to make everyone happy. There is tradeoff.
> >
> > But if you really meant siginfo->si_code, I do not understand at all what
> > you actually mean. This info is not preserved when the task exits.
>
> I've been reading do_wait() code a bit, it decides between CLD_KILLED and
> CLD_DUMPED based on a bit of (struct task_struct).exit_code.
Yes. But we were talking about the CLD_EXITED/CLD_KILLED difference.
And in fact this CLD_ doesn't matter at all. sys_waitid(info) can see
it, but you can simply look at "status". There is no additional info.
> So struct_task IS still available
Sure. But I do not understand why do you mention this... And, I think,
in this discussion we can pretend that only task->exit_code is still
available.
> (how about it's namespace references? If
> the namespaces are not the reboot reason would need to be stored somewhere
> inside of struct task which might be some overhead too much)
>
> So as long as container init's task_struct exists the reboot reason could
> be preserved and used to replace CLD_DUMPED/CLD_KILLED siginfo->si_code.
At least now I understand why did you mention si_code/CLD before. You
meant waitid(). I thought you were talking about the death-notifications
which can't report CLD_ you need.
I strongly object. We shouldn't uglify wait_task_zombie() to solve the
very specific problem.
And once again. sub_init->parent does wiat(&status) and sees
WIFSIGNALED() && WTERMSIG(status) == SIGHUP. This can only mean that
sys_reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_RESTART) was called. It _can not_ be really
killed by SIGHUP, it must be CMD_RESTART.
Why this can't work? Why do you want the additional complications?
> > > > And, iiuc, the point was to "fix" sys_reboot() so that we do not need
> > > > to mofify the distro/userspace?
> > >
> > > That's definitely the goal (not modify distro/userspace running inside
> > > container).
> >
> > In this case I do not understand how prctl() can help.
>
> I'm not talking about prctl() - as I understand Daniel the prctl() part is
> for the process outside of the container, not the one inside.
> So for container hypervisor to say if it wants to get informed or not.
OK, I certainly misunderstood him. And still can't understand what
exactly was suggested ;)
> > But please do not try to convince me, this is simply unnecessary ;)
>
> No, trying to know what's reasonably possible
Can't resist... IMHO, imho, imho, but in this case I believe
"reasonably possible" == "simplest" ;)
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-23 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-11 20:23 [PATCH 0/2] Send a SIGCHLD to the init's pid namespace parent when reboot Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-11 20:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] add SA_CLDREBOOT flag Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-14 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-14 16:36 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-08-14 17:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-11 20:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] Notify container-init parent a 'reboot' occured Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-11 21:09 ` Serge Hallyn
2011-08-11 21:30 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-11 21:50 ` Serge Hallyn
2011-08-12 16:29 ` Serge Hallyn
2011-08-12 20:42 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-12 21:13 ` Serge Hallyn
2011-08-13 0:19 ` Matt Helsley
2011-08-13 14:41 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-14 16:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-14 16:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] Send a SIGCHLD to the init's pid namespace parent when reboot Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-14 21:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-08-15 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-15 17:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-08-15 17:50 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-18 23:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-19 15:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 12:28 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-08-22 15:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 16:31 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-08-22 17:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-22 19:17 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-08-23 13:33 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-08-23 14:09 ` Greg Kurz
2011-08-23 14:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-24 19:44 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-08-25 15:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
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