From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: rjw@sisk.pl, paul@paulmenage.org, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] cgroup: introduce cgroup_taskset and consolidate subsys methods
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:53:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110824135317.GD23979@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110824074959.GA14170@htj.dyndns.org>
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 09:49:59AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Frederic.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:14:30AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > 0001-cgroup-subsys-attach_task-should-be-called-after-mig.patch
> > > 0002-cgroup-improve-old-cgroup-handling-in-cgroup_attach_.patch
> > > 0003-cgroup-introduce-cgroup_taskset-and-use-it-in-subsys.patch
> > > 0004-cgroup-don-t-use-subsys-can_attach_task-or-attach_ta.patch
> > > 0005-cgroup-cpuset-don-t-use-ss-pre_attach.patch
> > > 0006-cgroup-kill-subsys-can_attach_task-pre_attach-and-at.patch
> >
> > I don't understand the point on patches 3,4,5,6
> >
> > Why pushing the task iterations down to the subsystems?
>
> I'll try again.
>
> It seems like methods were added to serve the immediate need of the
> particular user at the time and that in turn led to addition of
> callbacks which were both superflous and incomplete (the bullet points
> in the original message list them). This seems to have happened
> because extra interface was added without trying to make the existing
> interface complete.
>
> The interface is complicated and cumbersome to use - are
> [can_]attach() called first or [can_]attach_task()? What about
> cancelation? What if a subsys wants to perform operations across
> multiple tasks atomically?
>
> In general, iteration-by-callback is painful to use. Establishing
> common context (be it synchronization domain or shared variables)
> becomes very cumbersome and implementation becomes fragmented and
> difficult to follow. For example, imagine how it would be like to use
> list if we had call_for_each_list_entry(func, list_head) instead of
> the control-loop style iterators we have know.
>
> So, using iterators enables making all relevant information to each
> stage of attach so that only one callback is required for each step -
> the way it should be. In addition, it makes it far easier for
> subsystems to implement more involved logic in their methods.
>
> I tried to make cgroup_freezer behave better which requires better
> synchronization against the freezer and, with the current interface,
> it's extremely ugly and painful. The new interface is complete, easy
> to understand and use with far less subtleties.
Yeah it's true that the order between [can]attach/[can]attach_task plus
the added mess with pre_attach was not entirely sane. The fact we have
foo and foo_task is already a problem.
I guess we indeed need to sacrifice the iteration from the cgroup core
for that.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-24 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-23 22:19 [PATCHSET] cgroup: introduce cgroup_taskset and consolidate subsys methods Tejun Heo
2011-08-23 22:19 ` [PATCH 1/6] cgroup: subsys->attach_task() should be called after migration Tejun Heo
2011-08-24 0:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-24 1:31 ` Li Zefan
2011-08-23 22:19 ` [PATCH 2/6] cgroup: improve old cgroup handling in cgroup_attach_proc() Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 8:51 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:03 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 9:42 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-23 22:19 ` [PATCH 3/6] cgroup: introduce cgroup_taskset and use it in subsys->can_attach(), cancel_attach() and attach() Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-25 8:20 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 8:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-25 8:40 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 8:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-25 9:14 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:20 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 9:32 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:32 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-23 22:19 ` [PATCH 4/6] cgroup: don't use subsys->can_attach_task() or ->attach_task() Tejun Heo
2011-08-24 1:57 ` Matt Helsley
2011-08-24 7:54 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 9:07 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-23 22:19 ` [PATCH 5/6] cgroup, cpuset: don't use ss->pre_attach() Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 8:53 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-25 9:06 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-23 22:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] cgroup: kill subsys->can_attach_task(), pre_attach() and attach_task() Tejun Heo
2011-08-25 9:45 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-24 1:14 ` [PATCHSET] cgroup: introduce cgroup_taskset and consolidate subsys methods Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-24 7:49 ` Tejun Heo
2011-08-24 13:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
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