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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
To: Chen Gong <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] mce: recover from "action required" errors reported in data path in usermode
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:25:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110907132500.GA8928@aftab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6709B2.7020401@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 02:05:38AM -0400, Chen Gong wrote:

[..]

> > +	/* known AR MCACODs: */
> > +	MCESEV(
> > +		KEEP, "HT thread notices Action required: data load error",
> > +		SER, MASK(MCI_STATUS_OVER|MCI_UC_SAR|MCI_ADDR|MCACOD, MCI_UC_SAR|MCI_ADDR|0x0134),
> > +		MCGMASK(MCG_STATUS_EIPV, 0)
> > +		),
> > +	MCESEV(
> > +		AR, "Action required: data load error",
> > +		SER, MASK(MCI_STATUS_OVER|MCI_UC_SAR|MCI_ADDR|MCACOD, MCI_UC_SAR|MCI_ADDR|0x0134),
> > +		USER
> > +		),
> 
> I don't think *AR* makes sense here because the following codes have a 
> assumption that it means *user space* condition. If so, in the future a 
> new *AR* severity for kernel usage is created, we can't distinguish 
> which one can call "memory_failure" as below. At least, it should have a 
> suffix such as AR_USER/AR_KERN:
> 
> enum severity_level {
>          MCE_NO_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_KEEP_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_SOME_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_AO_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_UC_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_AR_USER_SEVERITY,
> 	MCE_AR_KERN_SEVERITY,
>          MCE_PANIC_SEVERITY,
> };

Are you saying you need action required handling for when the data load
error happens in kernel space? If so, I don't see how you can replay the
data load (assuming this is a data load from DRAM). In that case, we're
fatal and need to panic. If it is a different type of data load coming
from a lower cache level, then we could be able to recover...?

[..]

> > +	if (worst == MCE_AR_SEVERITY) {
> > +		unsigned long pfn = m.addr>>  PAGE_SHIFT;
> > +
> > +		pr_err("Uncorrected hardware memory error in user-access at %llx",
> > +			m.addr);
> 
> print in the MCE handler maybe makes a deadlock ? say, when other CPUs 
> are printing something, suddently they received MCE broadcast from 
> Monarch CPU, when Monarch CPU runs above codes, a deadlock happens ?
> Please fix me if I miss something :-)

sounds like it can happen if the other CPUs have grabbed some console
semaphore/mutex (I don't know what exactly we're using there) and the
monarch tries to grab it.

> > +		if (__memory_failure(pfn, MCE_VECTOR, 0)<  0) {
> > +			pr_err("Memory error not recovered");
> > +			force_sig(SIGBUS, current);
> > +		} else
> > +			pr_err("Memory error recovered");
> > +	}
>
> as you mentioned in the comment, the biggest concern is that when
> __memory_failure runs too long, if another MCE happens at the same
> time, (assuming this MCE is happened on its sibling CPU which has the
> same banks), the 2nd MCE will crash the system. Why not delaying the
> process in a safer context, such as using user_return_notifer ?

The user_return_notifier won't work, as we concluded in the last
discussion round: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=130765542330349

AFAIR, we want to have a realtime thread dealing with that recovery
so that we exit #MC context as fast as possible. The code then should
be able to deal with a follow-up #MC. Tony, whatever happened to that
approach?

Thanks.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-31 22:21 [PATCH 0/5] Yet another pass at machine check recovery Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86, mce: rework use of TIF_MCE_NOTIFY Luck, Tony
2011-09-07  9:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-31 22:25 ` Luck, Tony
2011-09-09  2:23   ` huang ying
2011-08-31 22:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] mce: mask out undefined bits from MCi_ADDR Luck, Tony
2011-09-05  9:19   ` Chen Gong
2011-09-06 20:15     ` Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:25 ` Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] HWPOISON: Handle hwpoison in current process Luck, Tony
2011-09-07  5:47   ` Chen Gong
2011-08-31 22:26 ` Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] mce: remove TIF_MCE_NOTIFY Luck, Tony
2011-09-07  9:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-31 22:26 ` Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] mce: recover from "action required" errors reported in data path in usermode Luck, Tony
2011-09-07  6:05   ` Chen Gong
2011-09-07 13:25     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2011-09-07 13:50       ` Chen Gong
2011-09-08  3:05     ` Minskey Guo
2011-09-08  5:16       ` Luck, Tony
2011-09-08  9:25         ` Minskey Guo
2011-08-31 22:26 ` Luck, Tony
2011-08-31 22:41 ` [PATCH 0/5] Yet another pass at machine check recovery Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-08-31 22:54   ` Luck, Tony

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