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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Hans-Christian Egtvedt <hans-christian.egtvedt@atmel.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] nohz: Split extended quiescent state handling from nohz switch
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:06:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110913000637.GA17335@somewhere.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907142233.GA11570@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:22:33AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 04:36:43PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 07:30:49PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > It is assumed that rcu won't be used once we switch to tickless
> > > mode and until we restart the tick. However this is not always
> > > true, as in x86-64 where we dereference the idle notifiers after
> > > the tick is stopped.
> > > 
> > > To prepare for fixing this, split the tickless mode switching and
> > > RCU extended quiescent state logics.
> > > Make tick_nohz_stop/restart_sched_tick() RCU agnostic but provide
> > > a new pair of APIs tick_nohz_enter/exit_idle() that keep the
> > > old behaviour by handling both the nohz mode and RCU extended
> > > quiescent states, then convert every archs to use these.
> > > 
> > > Archs that want to switch to RCU extended QS to some custom points
> > > can do it later by changing the parameter in tick_nohz_enter,exit_idle()
> > > to false and call rcu_enter,exit() separately.
> > 
> > This approach looks quite good to me!  A few comments below.
> 
> But I get RCU stall warnings when running it on powerpc on top of
> the patch set at:
> 
> 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/9/7/64
> 
> At first glance, it appears that CPUs are entering dyntick-idle
> mode without RCU being informed.  Any thoughts on diagnostics?
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

I've just tested with your rcu/next branch from github and applied
my patches on top of it but did not experience a stall in x86.

That may be related to powerpc more precisely, or may be any arch
but on some particular condition.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-13  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-20 17:30 [PATCH 0/4 v2] rcu: Fix some rcu uses in extended quiescent state Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-20 17:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] nohz: Split extended quiescent state handling from nohz switch Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-20 17:39   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-22  2:02   ` Guan Xuetao
2011-09-04 21:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-04 21:05     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-04 23:36   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 14:58     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-07 14:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-07 21:39       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-13  0:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-09-13 16:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-20 17:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Enter rcu extended qs after idle notifier call Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-20 17:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: Call idle notifier after irq_enter() Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-20 17:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu: Fix early call to rcu_irq_exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-04 23:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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