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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com, patches@linaro.org,
	anton@samba.org, paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 55/55] powerpc: Work around tracing from dyntick-idle mode
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:50:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110913195033.GB3301@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110913191319.GF23424@somewhere>

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:13:21PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 06:44:00AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:00:22AM -0300, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 11:00 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > PowerPC LPAR's __trace_hcall_exit() can invoke event tracing at a
> > > > point where RCU has been told that the CPU is in dyntick-idle mode.
> > > > Because event tracing uses RCU, this can result in failures.
> > > > 
> > > > A correct fix would arrange for RCU to be told about dyntick-idle
> > > > mode after tracing had completed, however, this will require some care
> > > > because it appears that __trace_hcall_exit() can also be called from
> > > > non-dyntick-idle mode.
> > > 
> > > This obviously needs to be fixed properly. hcall tracing is very useful
> > > and if I understand your patch properly, it just comments it out :-)
> > 
> > That is exactly what it does, and I completely agree that this patch
> > is nothing but a short-term work-around to allow my RCU tests to find
> > other bugs.
> > 
> > > I'm not sure what the best approach is, maybe have the hcall tracing
> > > test for the dyntick-idle mode and skip tracing in that case ?
> > 
> > Another approach would be to update Frederic Weisbecker's patch at:
> > 
> > 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/8/20/83
> > 
> > so that powerpc does tick_nohz_enter_idle(false), and then uses
> > rcu_enter_nohz() explicitly just after doing the hcall tracing.
> > If pseries is the only powerpc architecture requiring this, then
> > the argument to tick_nohz_enter_idle() could depend on the powerpc
> > sub-architecture.
> 
> I'm trying to fix this but I need a bit of help to understand the
> pseries cpu sleeping.
> 
> In pseries_dedicated_idle_sleep(), what is the function that does
> the real sleeping? Is it cede_processor()?

As I understand it, cede_processor()'s call to plpar_hcall_norets()
results in the hypervisor being invoked, and could give up the CPU.
And yes, in this case, RCU needs to stop paying attention to this CPU.
And pseries_shared_idle_sleep() also invokes cede_proceessor().

Gah...  And there also appear to be some assembly-language functions
that can be invoked via the ppc_md.power_save() call from cpu_idle():
ppc6xx_idle(), power4_idle(), idle_spin(), idle_doze(), and book3e_idle().
There is also a power7_idle(), but it does not appear to be used anywhere.

Plus there are the C-language ppc44x_idle(), beat_power_save(),
cbe_power_save(), ps3_power_save(), and cpm_idle().

> > The same thing would be needed for tick_nohz_exit_idle() and
> > rcu_exit_nohz(): powerpc would need to invoke rcu_exit_nohz() after
> > gaining control from the hypervisor but before doing its first tracing,
> > and then it would need the idle loop to to tick_nohz_exit_idle(false).
> > Again, if pseries is the only powerpc architecture requiring this,
> > the argument to tick_nohz_exit_idle() could depend on the architecture.
> > 
> > Would this approach work?
> 
> Sounds like we really need that.

Sounds like an arch-dependent config symbol that is defined for the
pseries targets, but not for the other powerpc architectures.

Not clear to me what to do about power4_idle(), though.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-13 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-06 18:00 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/55] Preview of RCU changes for 3.2 Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 17:59 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/55] rcu: Use kthread_create_on_node() Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 17:59 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/55] rcu: Avoid unnecessary self-wakeup of per-CPU kthreads Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 17:59 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/55] rcu: Update documentation to flag RCU_BOOST trace information Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 17:59 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/55] rcu: Restore checks for blocking in RCU read-side critical sections Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 17:59 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/55] rcu: Move rcu_head definition to types.h Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-07 18:31   ` Paul Gortmaker
2011-09-07 22:11     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/55] rcu: Update rcutorture documentation Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/55] rcu: Fix mismatched variable in rcutree_trace.c Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/55] rcu: Abstract common code for RCU grace-period-wait primitives Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/55] rcu: Catch rcutorture up to new RCU API additions Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/55] rcu: Fix RCU's NMI documentation Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/55] rcu: Drive configuration directly from SMP and PREEMPT Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/55] rcu: Fix pathnames in documentation Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/55] rcu: Don't destroy rcu_torture_boost() callback until it is done Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/55] rcu: Add event-tracing for RCU callback invocation Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/55] rcu: Event-trace markers for computing RCU CPU utilization Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/55] rcu: Put names into TINY_RCU structures under RCU_TRACE Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/55] rcu: Add RCU type to callback-invocation tracing Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/55] rcu: Update comments to reflect softirqs vs. kthreads Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 19/55] rcu: Move RCU_BOOST declarations to allow compiler checking Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 20/55] rcu: Add event-trace markers to TREE_RCU kthreads Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 21/55] rcu: Make TINY_RCU also use softirq for RCU_BOOST=n Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 22/55] rcu: Add grace-period, quiescent-state, and call_rcu trace events Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:33   ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:02     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 23/55] rcu: Simplify quiescent-state accounting Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 24/55] rcu: Not necessary to pass rcu_read_lock_held() to rcu_dereference_protected() Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 25/55] rcu: Update documentation for additional RCU lockdep functions Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 26/55] rcu: Remove unused and redundant interfaces Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 27/55] rcu: Allow rcutorture's stat_interval parameter to be changed at runtime Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 28/55] rcu: Document interpretation of RCU-lockdep splats Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 29/55] nohz: Remove nohz_cpu_mask Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 30/55] rcu: Eliminate in_irq() checks in rcu_enter_nohz() Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 31/55] rcu: Make rcu_implicit_dynticks_qs() locals be correct size Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:43   ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 32/55] rcu: Make rcu_assign_pointer() unconditionally insert a memory barrier Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 33/55] rcu: Improve rcu_assign_pointer() and RCU_INIT_POINTER() documentation Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 34/55] rcu: Move __rcu_read_unlock()'s barrier() within if-statement Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 35/55] rcu: Dump local stack if cannot dump all CPUs' stacks Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 36/55] rcu: Prevent early boot set_need_resched() from __rcu_pending() Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:49   ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 37/55] rcu: Simplify unboosting checks Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 38/55] rcu: Prohibit grace periods during early boot Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:51   ` Josh Triplett
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 39/55] rcu: Suppress NMI backtraces when stall ends before dump Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 40/55] rcu: Avoid having just-onlined CPU resched itself when RCU is idle Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 41/55] rcu: Permit rt_mutex_unlock() with irqs disabled Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-18  4:09   ` Yong Zhang
2011-09-19  4:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-19  5:49       ` Yong Zhang
2011-09-20 14:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 42/55] rcu: Make rcu_torture_fqs() exit loops at end of test Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:53   ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 43/55] rcu: Make rcu_torture_boost() " Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 44/55] rcu: wire up RCU_BOOST_PRIO for rcutree Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-13 12:02   ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-13 15:34     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-13 16:04       ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-13 20:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  1:55   ` Josh Triplett
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 45/55] rcu: check for entering dyntick-idle mode while in read-side critical section Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 46/55] rcu: Remove rcu_needs_cpu_flush() to avoid false quiescent states Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 47/55] rcu: Move propagation of ->completed from rcu_start_gp() to rcu_report_qs_rsp() Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 48/55] powerpc: strengthen value-returning-atomics memory barriers Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-09 17:23   ` Olof Johansson
2011-09-09 17:34     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-09 18:43       ` Olof Johansson
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 49/55] rcu: Detect illegal rcu dereference in extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 50/55] rcu: Inform the user about dynticks-idle mode on PROVE_RCU warning Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 51/55] rcu: Warn when rcu_read_lock() is used in extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 52/55] rcu: Remove one layer of abstraction from PROVE_RCU checking Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 53/55] rcu: Warn when srcu_read_lock() is used in an extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-04 21:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-04 23:40     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-04 23:42       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 54/55] rcu: Make srcu_read_lock_held() call common lockdep-enabled function Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  2:03   ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:34     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-06 18:00 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 55/55] powerpc: Work around tracing from dyntick-idle mode Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-07 10:00   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-09-07 13:44     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-13 19:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-13 19:50         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-09-13 20:49           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-09-15 14:53             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-16 12:24             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-07 14:39 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/55] Preview of RCU changes for 3.2 Lin Ming
2011-09-08 17:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-08 19:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-08 20:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-09-12 16:24         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-10-17  2:06 ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-24 12:35   ` Paul E. McKenney

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