From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753893Ab1I1KpI (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:45:08 -0400 Received: from s15228384.onlinehome-server.info ([87.106.30.177]:39568 "EHLO mail.x86-64.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752462Ab1I1KpE (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:45:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:45:06 +0200 From: Borislav Petkov To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: John Stultz , lkml , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , arve@android.com, markgross@thegnar.org, Alan Stern , amit.kucheria@linaro.org, farrowg@sg.ibm.com, "Dmitry Fink (Palm GBU)" , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, khilman@ti.com, Magnus Damm , mjg@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Proposal for optimistic suspend idea. Message-ID: <20110928104506.GB22878@gere.osrc.amd.com> References: <1317064434-1829-1-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org> <1317068164.1763.39.camel@twins> <1317076065.3112.539.camel@work-vm> <1317119870.15383.29.camel@twins> <1317164216.3112.711.camel@work-vm> <1317201399.18012.4.camel@twins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1317201399.18012.4.camel@twins> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:16:39AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 15:56 -0700, John Stultz wrote: > > > > > > I do think my idea is neat, so we can spend/burn time debating it, but > > if you have viable suggestions (and honestly, I think rewriting all of > > userland isn't viable) on solving the larger problem, I'm all ears. > > > And yet, rewriting all of userspace is exactly what Android did, they > had the perfect opportunity of doing it right, but they came up with the > worst solution ever. > > As for my laptop, I really would like the firefox guys to add a > 'feature' that stops JS on non-visible tabs and preferably also drop all > data after a little while. > > firefox is the #1 wakeup thing on my machine and its mostly invisible > (minimized) and when its not, I can only stare at a single tab anyway. Oh yeah, same here. I even went so far as to do kill -STOP $(pidof firefox-bin) at times simply because the thing was getting out of control. And to be honest, the moment a thinner browser comes out with authors who actually do care about not bloating the crap out of it, I'm jumping on it. -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. Advanced Micro Devices GmbH Einsteinring 24, 85609 Dornach GM: Alberto Bozzo Reg: Dornach, Landkreis Muenchen HRB Nr. 43632 WEEE Registernr: 129 19551