From: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:49:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111004044914.GP6684@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111003225651.GA10257@leaf>
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:56:52PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>
> Same question here. I have a key, which has already accumulated some
> signatures, and I feel confident that key remains secure, along with the
> one and only system that key lives on. I have a revocation certificate
> prepared for that key in a secure location, though I'd certainly welcome
> an escrow service from kernel.org as long as that service only stored
> encrypted documents to which only the key owner had the passphrase. I
> don't see any need to generate an entirely new key in a hurry.
> Certainly transitioning to larger and algorithmically better keys over
> time seems like a good idea, but given the nature of the kernel.org
> compromise, immediate concerns about the strength of GPG keys seems much
> less warranted than concerns about the security of the systems they live
> on.
This is what I did. I generated a new key a year ago, which has never
left my laptop. I accumulated keys at linux.conf.au, and after I get
more signatures at the KS in Prague, my intention is to gradually
transition from the key generated in 1997, which has been used to sign
all of my Debian packages and e2fsprogs releases, to my new key.
But that's only because I'm reasonably confident I can trust my new
key, and I did a very careful examination of my laptop looking for
signs that my machines might have been penetrated --- before I
reinstalled it and my desktop at the same time, and initiated a full
password change cycle. (Yes, that's paranoia. With security, the
question is always, "are you paranoid *enough*"?)
Note that if your laptop allows incoming ssh connections, and you
logged into master.kernel.org with ssh forwarding enabled, your laptop
may not be safe. So be very, very careful before you assume that your
laptop is safe. At least one kernel developer, after he got past the
belief, "surely I could have never had my machine be compromised",
looked carefully and found rootkits on his machines.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-04 4:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-30 23:50 kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust H. Peter Anvin
2011-09-30 23:59 ` kernel.org status: hints on how to check your machine for intrusion Greg KH
2011-10-01 1:15 ` David Miller
2011-10-01 4:54 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 7:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 14:07 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 18:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:13 ` David Miller
2011-10-01 18:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 21:23 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-01 21:30 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 9:28 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-10-01 18:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 18:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-03 9:47 ` gmack
2011-10-01 22:06 ` Frank A. Kingswood
2011-10-03 9:49 ` gmack
2011-10-01 14:17 ` akwatts
2011-10-01 14:28 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 16:29 ` Andy
2011-10-01 16:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 17:19 ` Andy
2011-10-01 17:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-01 22:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-01 17:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 18:40 ` Andy
2011-10-01 19:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 19:24 ` Greg KH
2011-10-01 20:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 20:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-01 20:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 20:24 ` Andy
2011-10-01 22:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 0:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 5:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 1:58 ` tmhikaru
2011-10-02 2:26 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 3:30 ` Andy
2011-10-02 4:39 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 6:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 12:03 ` Andy
2011-10-02 18:27 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-11 1:16 ` Andrew Watts
2011-10-02 3:31 ` tmhikaru
2011-10-07 9:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-13 2:34 ` Re " Matthew W.S. Bell
2011-10-13 10:59 ` Matthew W.S. Bell
2011-10-18 15:13 ` Jean Delvare
2011-10-18 15:21 ` Greg KH
2011-10-18 16:08 ` Jean Delvare
2011-10-01 14:05 ` kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust Greg KH
2011-10-01 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-01 22:26 ` Greg KH
2011-10-02 23:02 ` Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
2011-10-02 23:09 ` Greg KH
2011-10-03 9:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-03 14:13 ` Greg KH
2011-10-03 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-10-01 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-01 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-01 22:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-10-01 22:52 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-02 1:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 1:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 17:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 18:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 18:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 19:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 19:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-02 19:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 18:24 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-02 18:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-02 20:42 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 9:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-03 16:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-10-03 18:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-04 20:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-04 22:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-04 23:17 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-10-05 4:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-05 7:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 17:06 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-05 19:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 19:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 20:09 ` Greg KH
2011-10-05 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 23:47 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-06 7:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 23:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 0:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-06 0:18 ` Chris Friesen
2011-10-06 7:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 17:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 8:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 10:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-06 11:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 11:05 ` Josh Boyer
2011-10-06 11:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 4:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-05 20:00 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-05 20:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-05 20:36 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-05 23:55 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 0:23 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 0:50 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 5:25 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 13:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 14:43 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-06 10:05 ` Alan Cox
2011-10-06 17:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 15:58 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-06 17:39 ` Mark Brown
2011-10-06 17:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 17:52 ` Mark Brown
2011-10-06 17:48 ` Greg KH
2011-10-06 18:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-06 18:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-06 19:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-06 22:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-07 16:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-07 16:59 ` Greg KH
2011-10-07 16:59 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-07 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-08 5:02 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 14:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-08 15:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-10-08 15:48 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 17:59 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 21:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 21:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-09 3:01 ` Jon Masters
2011-10-08 15:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-08 15:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-05 19:43 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-10-02 18:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-10-02 22:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-02 23:16 ` Josh Boyer
2011-10-03 0:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 22:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2011-10-02 22:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-02 23:23 ` Olof Johansson
2011-10-02 23:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 0:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-03 1:00 ` Guenter Roeck
2011-10-03 1:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-03 1:09 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 1:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-10-03 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 1:42 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-03 1:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 3:15 ` Geoff Levand
2011-10-03 3:29 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 3:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-10-03 3:54 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 4:02 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-03 4:33 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-03 0:43 ` Lee Mathers
2011-10-03 9:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-04 22:34 ` Ralf Baechle
2011-10-05 19:12 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2011-10-06 13:27 ` Cambridge, UK key signing meeting. Thursday 13th Oct Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-11 16:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2011-10-02 18:20 ` kernel.org status: establishing a PGP web of trust Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 1:18 ` Ben Pfaff
2011-10-03 1:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-03 11:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-03 22:56 ` Josh Triplett
2011-10-04 4:49 ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-10-04 4:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-04 5:11 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-04 16:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-04 7:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-04 19:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-06 3:14 ` John Johansen
2011-10-06 4:49 ` hpanvin@gmail.com
2011-10-04 12:51 ` Heiko Carstens
2011-10-04 22:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-10-04 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-05 0:27 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-03 17:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2011-10-06 18:22 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 18:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-06 21:19 ` [Warsaw Poland] " Krzysztof Halasa
2011-10-06 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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