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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Cc: dave@jikos.cz, Hugo Mills <hugo-lkml@carfax.org.uk>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
	harald@redhat.com, david@fubar.dk, greg@kroah.com,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Btrfs mailing list <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A Plumber???s Wish List for Linux
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:28:39 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111013002839.GL3159@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C18E3B8-FA7E-4BC1-BE5D-B517004321A2@mit.edu>

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 09:09:37AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:18 AM, David Sterba wrote:
> 
> > "Resetting the UUID on btrfs isn't a quick-and-easy thing - you
> > have to walk the entire tree and change every object. We've got
> > a bad-hack in meego that uses btrfs-debug-tree and changes the
> > UUID while it runs the entire tree, but it's ugly as hell."
> 
> Changing the UUID is going to be harder for ext4 as well, once we
> integrate metadata checksums. 

And for XFS, we're modifying the on-disk format to encode the UUID
into every single piece of metadata in the filesystem. Hence
changing it entails a similar problem to btrfs - an entire
filesystem metadata RMW cycle.

> So while it makes sense to have
> on-line ways of updating labels for mounted file systems it
> probably makes muchness sense to support it for UUIDs.
                     ^^^^ less
Agreed.

> I suspect what it means in practice is that it will be useful for
> file systems to provide fs image copying tools that also generate
> a new UUID while you're at it, for use by IT administrators and
> embedded systems manufacturers.

Yup. xfs_admin already provides an interface for offline
modification of the UUID for XFS filesytems. I.e. clone the
filesytem using xfs_copy, then run xfs_admin -U generate <clone> to
generate a new uuid in the cloned copy before you mount the
clone....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-13  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-06 23:17 A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux Kay Sievers
2011-10-06 23:46 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-07  0:13   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-07  1:57     ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-07 15:58       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-19 23:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-07  7:49 ` Matt Helsley
2011-10-07 16:01   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-08  4:24     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-10 16:31       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-10 20:59         ` Detecting if you are running in a container Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-10 21:41           ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-11  5:40             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11  6:54             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-12 16:59             ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-01 22:05               ` [lxc-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2011-11-01 23:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-11-02  8:08                   ` Michael Tokarev
2011-10-11  1:32           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11  2:05             ` Matt Helsley
2011-10-11  3:25               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11  6:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 12:53                   ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-11 21:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 22:30                       ` david
2011-10-12  4:26                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-12  5:10                           ` david
2011-10-12 15:08                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-12 17:57                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-12 18:25                         ` Kyle Moffett
2011-10-12 19:04                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-12 19:12                             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-10-14 15:54                               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-14 18:04                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-14 21:58                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-16  9:42                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-30 20:11                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-11-01 13:38                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 22:25               ` david
2011-10-07 10:12 ` A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux Alan Cox
2011-10-07 10:28   ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-07 10:38     ` Alan Cox
2011-10-07 12:46       ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-07 13:39         ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-07 15:21         ` Hugo Mills
2011-10-10 11:18           ` A Plumber???s " David Sterba
2011-10-10 13:09             ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-13  0:28               ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-10-14 15:47                 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11 13:14             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-11 15:49               ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-10-12  2:31                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-12 20:51                 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-08  9:53         ` A Plumber’s " Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-10-09  3:15           ` Alex Elsayed
2011-10-07 16:07       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-07 12:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-07 18:59 ` Greg KH
2011-10-09 12:20   ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-09  8:45 ` Rusty Russell
2011-10-11 23:16 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12  0:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-12  0:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]     ` <20111012174014.GE6281@google.com>
2011-10-12 18:16       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 15:38         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-14 16:01           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:08             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:19               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-19 21:19           ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 21:12 ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 23:03   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-19 23:09     ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 23:31       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-22 10:21         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-22 15:28           ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-25  5:40             ` Li Zefan
2011-10-30 17:18               ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-01  1:27                 ` Li Zefan
     [not found] <CAE2SPAZci=u__d58phePCftVr_e+i+N2YU-JYjGDG_b3TmYTSQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-07 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2011-10-07 14:57   ` Alexander E. Patrakov

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